I am sure it was only £30 last few years,well 2, becuse before that it was Donnington.
they seem to have includud a paddock pass and put the price up.
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http://www.riders.org/news-blog/news/day...22nd-april
It was usually on a thursday, a ride in from about forty miles out, Bradley Smith and Niel Mcenzie led us in , we then got four laps of bloody brilliant fun,
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looks a great day mate but a tad too far for me, I'll enquire at Oulton Pk and see if I can get it a bit closer to home
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Can't beat the classic Hailwood style!
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The only trouble with Hailwoods style is that if he lost the rear end slightly he couldn't then prop the bike up and recover like I've seen a few GP riders do.
It also makes him look like a frog 
(04-05-13, 08:11 PM)Chillum link Wrote: The only trouble with Hailwoods style is that if he lost the rear end slightly he couldn't then prop the bike up and recover like I've seen a few GP riders do.
It also makes him look like a frog
Without wanting to detract at all from his accomplishments, the bikes he was racing were considerably slower, maybe lighter? than the current generations of race bikes. Hailwood's style today on the GP track would leave him firmly last.
The Deef's apprentice
As much as its personal preference on wether to hang off or not in my experience the actual type of bike makes a difference too, before retiring the mk1 fazer I was happily grinding the pegs without hero blobs and without hanging off, I went on to a T'cat (well 2 of them) and a Gixxer 750, on those I felt a heck of a lot more comfortable dragging knee round every possible corner!
Just picked up an '03 foxeye today, 200 mile journey home and its gonna take me a few more to get my comfortable riding style down again on this one, 5 year old Conti road attack tyres aren't helping though tbh!
Some say...
wahhooo !!! ride em cowboy :lol
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Put any of the current day guys on one of Mike's old bikes and see if they could get round something like the IOM in the times he did.
I bet you they won't even get close......I doubt if they'd even manage to stay on the bike. Because he was riding with archaic suspension, pisspoor brakes, and wafer thin tyres barely better than a bicycle.
The current generation couldn't even begin to imagine riding a bike that they had to battle with just to keep it upright.
So strip away all the high tech from these guys today and you'll see a different picture.
And the reason guys of that era rode in that way was because in those times the damn tyres were square. It was only in the early 70's with Saarinen and then Kenny Roberts that the present riding styles started taking shape due to technology moving forward.
But in Hailwood's day it was no nonsense stuff.......and virtually non existent safety standards. Different world and those guys were brave men.
(04-05-13, 09:32 PM)XTremo link Wrote: Put any of the current day guys on one of Mike's old bikes and see if they could get round something like the IOM in the times he did.
I bet you they won't even get close......I doubt if they'd even manage to stay on the bike. Because he was riding with archaic suspension, pisspoor brakes, and wafer thin tyres barely better than a bicycle.
The current generation couldn't even begin to imagine riding a bike that they had to battle with just to keep it upright.
So strip away all the high tech from these guys today and you'll see a different picture.
And the reason guys of that era rode in that way was because in those times the damn tyres were square. It was only in the early 70's with Saarinen and then Kenny Roberts that the present riding styles started taking shape due to technology moving forward.
But in Hailwood's day it was no nonsense stuff.......and virtually non existent safety standards. Different world and those guys were brave men.
Without a doubt. But the new racers have adapted. In Hailwoods' day, you needed skill, luck, and balls the size of melons to race bikes. Now it appears cushier, buit a whole new skills set is required.
The Deef's apprentice
Yes without doubt things have changed.....but the technology of today allow riders to do the things they do.
But you mentioned adapting.....what happened when Rossi went to Ducati? It didn't work out too well.
As for Hailwood.....he took ten years out and came back to win the TT.....on bikes that were light years ahead of what he was used to. If the ability is there to that degree then it can be done.
But ask yourself how many riders since then have taken 10 years out and then come back and done that? Do you honestly think any riders of today are capable of that?
We only saw a glimpse of the ability that the likes of Hailwood and Saarinen posssessed during that era.....because they were restricted by technology. Though those guys always rode beyond the boundaries of that technology to a level that was untouchable in their day. And totally dominated.
The only rider who's come remotely close to that in the modern era is Mick Doohan. But injuries notwithstanding, could he now return and be the force he was? Highly unlikely.....great rider though he was, he was no Mike Hailwood.
Long long ago when I first joined this august body of members I ventured out on my shiny new FZS600 to one of the foc-u meets.
When we had all met up and ritually inspected each others bikes we set off and after about half a mile came to a roundabout.
The lead rider gave it all he had and had his knee down very impressively till he had done about half the roundabout and spotted the police bike sitting on the verge ahead eyeing him beadily.
He quickly reverted to riding a bit more like the novice that I was....................... upright, slowly, good boy stylie. :eek :rolleyes
I used to not give a foc, then I discovered Red Bull and now I don't give a flying foc !!!
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(04-05-13, 09:32 PM)XTremo link Wrote: The current generation couldn't even begin to imagine riding a bike that they had to battle with just to keep it upright.
So strip away all the high tech from these guys today and you'll see a different picture.
This is what us ex-racers, including those of the Hailwoos era would call 'Rubbish'.
You have no idea how hard it is to wrestle a bike with massive horsepower on modern slick tyres. I rode a slick shod RC30 endurance racer at a practise day at Brands in the eighties, it's probably 50bhp down on it's modern equivalent and the slicks similarly down on grip, but still an animal. I was auditioning for a place on an endurance team (wasn't chosen tho) and after 10 laps I was exhausted. It was a constant battle to keep it stable on the exit of corners, the grip from the tyres make it very hard work and the braking forces make your arms ache like hell after just half a dozen laps, the concentration required makes you sweat buckets. I've no doubt in my mind that modern GP riders are super-fit beings, possessing of a huge amount of skill. Their bikes are undoubtably extremely hard to ride fast on their own, let alone whilst battling with their fellows. The modern 'aids' are I think required, less highsides can only be good, they cause horrific injuries usually.
Anyways it's barmy to imply that nobody born after the Hailwood era is automatically not as good as him and his fellows.
Si
I once got my knee down on a foc-u rideout. Then remembered I was in textiles with no armour. We pissed ourselves laughing.
Hanging off was a laugh and the lean angle to get fazer pegs down is nil. Yes Fazey and allistar both wore out there exhausts. 
Hang off and it saves wear and tear on the bike lol
And I did a Bike safe and the copper gave up. But that was on a racetrack and my thou had a nice hole in the exhaust at the end. Expensive day, not sure if I understood the lesson, he was pissing himself cos he had a hole in his pannier.
Biking is about fun, if it aint fun then its getting cold or battered by flies for nothing
(14-05-13, 07:09 PM)Bornagain again link Wrote: I once got my knee down on a foc-u rideout. Then remembered I was in textiles with no armour. We pissed ourselves laughing.
Hanging off was a laugh and the lean angle to get fazer pegs down is nil. Yes Fazey and allistar both wore out there exhausts.
How much of your arse was on the bike?!? :eek
Also, what tyres were you running?
The Deef's apprentice
Just a bit was still on the saddle, I am not that agile as to hang right off. Found technique works better than brute force.
As for the toe skinners that's cos you got your foot pointing out not in lol. Brand new pair of sidi black rains taught me that lesson
Caught this on vid at BikeSafe. All were doing it on a 125 then the Police came out to play
Daz
10 This is why Police do not have to hang off their bikes BikeSafe 9 June 2013
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(10-06-13, 06:15 PM)dBfazer600 link Wrote: Caught this on vid at BikeSafe. All were doing it on a 125 then the Police came out to play
Daz
10 This is why Police do not have to hang off their bikes BikeSafe 9 June 2013
Forgive me, but its really not the reason why the Police do not have to hang off their bikes, it's irrelevent and has nothing to do with skill. The reason is simple, they arn't going fast enough!
Hanging off was invented and refined on the racetrack, as bikes got faster and more powerfull you needed to hang off to keep the bike as upright as poss (more rubber on the track) plus keeping your c of g lower gives you leverage over the centrifugal force -a race bike is always trying to stand up when you dial in the power.
People who do it on the road are doing it for two reason, firstly to emulate racers and secondly because it simply feels cool doing it, although the bike is in fact benefiting from being more upright if you do hang off.
It's a bit stupid trying to infer that riding 'properly' like the police means no hanging off is required. If you put a Policeman on a racetrack they would all hang off the bike -as required. The reason is speed and power not skill. Simples.
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