Theory test for CBT

[darrsi]

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@agree Dude

the point I was making was obviously missed. The point was if the car test was as hard to do and get to "unlimited" status, there would be an outcry but as bikes are a minority transport they get picked on unfailrly. The reason used for picking on bike is related to the accident statistics for KSI's in bike accidents vs. car accidents and the fact that proportionally we are involved in more accidents than car drivers.
Some of this is true. Some is bollocks. Car drivers have a lot more accidents than recorded, its just that they can still drive away so goes unrecorded.

If drivers were made to spend 12 months (or more) on a bike before they were allowed behind the wheel of a car, the number of bike accidents would go down as the myopic ones would suddenly be more aware of their surroundings and look out for bikes.

Well said :thumbup


I think they'd rather motorcycles weren't on the roads at all. They can't uninvent them, so therefore they make it as hard as possible to obtain a licence hoping that will put most people off riding.

Aside from accident statistics I think a lot of the negative feeling towards bikes is raised by filtering.

I know several car drivers who are enraged by bikes filtering through traffic, not because they feel it is particularly dangerous, but because that they see it as 'queue jumping'.

They view it the same as pushing in at the supermarket.

The attitude is: 'I've got to sit stuck in the queue, why should you get to the front before me?!'
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My boss text me a couple of months back saying traffic was at a standstill, just as a warning, so i text him back saying cheers for the heads up,
He wasn't wrong, the traffic started outside my house, nearly 6 miles away from work, so i knew i was in for a bad journey.
Anyway, when turning up bang on time he was astounded and asked me how i got there so quick, bearing in mind some people turned up two and a half hours late, later on.
Simple, i rode the whole journey on the other side of the road, as that side was really empty and it seemed a waste not to make use of it.  :lol
Technically i wasn't even breaking the law as i'm allowed to overtake static traffic, and there were no hard white lines.
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But really that just means you were the only numpty not to get 2 1/2 hours off work haha
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Unfortunately i'm a one man department, and the work needs to be done regardless, so i don't gain anything by going in late, it would just make me stay later as i work to deadlines.

[tommyardin]

Carol or the car? ?

The old Regal of course!
FFS mtread sharpen up mate. lol
I loved that old van, I lost my virginity in the back of that.

[mtread]

I knew ?I had a Regal too, and a Janet. Regularly got both off the ground ?

[taylor]

the car and bike test are both a con to make money.      I took my bike test twenty years after my car,    and had to do a theory test and the hazard perception ,    the hazard I passed and the guy said it was one of the best he had seen.        I should think so after how long I have driven.          the theory test what a joke,    one question was what do I do if my windscreen  steams up, f,f,sake .    it was the same as the car theory of which I have a full license.      so WHY O WHY.

[Grahamm]

Technically i wasn't even breaking the law as i'm allowed to overtake static traffic, and there were no hard white lines.

Interestingly, provided the traffic is not moving you *are* legally allowed to overtake even if there is a solid white line on your side of the road! The actual wording is "You may cross the line if necessary, provided the road is clear, to pass a stationary vehicle".

Now I've checked and "stationary" simply means "not moving", I'd always thought before that meant eg "parked" or "with the engine off", but that's not what it says.

You have to be careful, of course, because, if the traffic starts moving whilst you're going past, you are committing an offence and if you were to have an accident, you'd very probably be judged as being in the wrong as you'd need to justify that it was entirely "necessary".

But, none the less, it's useful to know and it can be very handy for making progress in situations like you describe

[Skippernick]

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Technically i wasn't even breaking the law as i'm allowed to overtake static traffic, and there were no hard white lines.

Interestingly, provided the traffic is not moving you *are* legally allowed to overtake even if there is a solid white line on your side of the road! The actual wording is "You may cross the line if necessary, provided the road is clear, to pass a stationary vehicle".

Now I've checked and "stationary" simply means "not moving", I'd always thought before that meant eg "parked" or "with the engine off", but that's not what it says.

You have to be careful, of course, because, if the traffic starts moving whilst you're going past, you are committing an offence and if you were to have an accident, you'd very probably be judged as being in the wrong as you'd need to justify that it was entirely "necessary".

But, none the less, it's useful to know and it can be very handy for making progress in situations like you describe
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Add to that that you can cross solid white lines to overtake slow moving trafficwith a flashing yellow lights, so buy loads of them and out them on the roof of vehicles as you go past. :lol

[joebloggs]

I knew ?I had a Regal too, and a Janet. Regularly got both off the ground ?

I had a regal van with a bench seat in the back, picked up a couple of girls going to a nightclub one evening, they asked me to drop them round the corner, of course I delivered them straight to the front door lol

Bloody awful thing to drive, no anti roll bar meant it would wallow down the road every time you hit a bump etc

Had a drive in a Bond Bug a few years ago, like a sports car in comparison