GSXR750...

[anutz]

so, i have been looking at K3/4/5, as they are usually between 2-3K, or an SRAD which is less, but i don't want to buy a total rust bucked or something that will need lots of work like my FZS600 did i.e. shocks and springs, so at 18 stone i wonder how well its setup for my big bones

[joebloggs]

so, i have been looking at K3/4/5, as they are usually between 2-3K, or an SRAD which is less, but i don't want to buy a total rust bucked or something that will need lots of work like my FZS600 did i.e. shocks and springs, so at 18 stone i wonder how well its setup for my big bones

You need to consider any bike you look at at this age may require a new shock etc so providing its in fair condition it may be worth going with an earlier bike and spending some of the money you save on the asking price on suspension.

[anutz]

good point regards the suspension, after all i had to do the same on my FZS600, new R6 shock and changed fork springs....

[JoeRock]

I would listen to the trimmer of hedges
 




He has lots of experience of crashing.  Riding that class of motorcycle :b




For what its worth id like to try a gsxr 750 too but i know it wouldnt be comfy for me as my fz1 wasnt. The fz1 was pretty heavy and i think the lightweight 750 would be a good compromise for the roads and corners.

You do know they're completely different riding positions Nogster - the 750 has clipons!
Around town at low speeds, I prefer flat bars. For every other riding, I prefer clipons - so as little of my riding is around town a sports bike made more sense!

[noggythenog]

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so, i have been looking at K3/4/5, as they are usually between 2-3K, or an SRAD which is less, but i don't want to buy a total rust bucked or something that will need lots of work like my FZS600 did i.e. shocks and springs, so at 18 stone i wonder how well its setup for my big bones

You need to consider any bike you look at at this age may require a new shock etc so providing its in fair condition it may be worth going with an earlier bike and spending some of the money you save on the asking price on suspension.
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Mr bloggs has a good point......but on the other hand you want to try experience the bike as it was meant to be rather than how it is with some fancy shock that might make it far too stiff or unforgiving or whatever......this is what i did with my thou and in hindsight i probably would have much preferred the standard suspension.....but i wouldnt really trust sellers saying "sorted" suspension, just because it says nitron or ohlins doesnt mean it will be right for you.........18 stone is heavy though..........i must be about that fully kitted up and on my noggytrx i have a standard yzf750 rear shock, 90's era and it is spot on.......looks a bit scabby but it is plush.......so a standard shock on a gsxr id hazard a guess at being perfectly fine for you albeit maybe a rebuilt one for peace of mind.

[noggythenog]

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I would listen to the trimmer of hedges
 




He has lots of experience of crashing.  Riding that class of motorcycle :b




For what its worth id like to try a gsxr 750 too but i know it wouldnt be comfy for me as my fz1 wasnt. The fz1 was pretty heavy and i think the lightweight 750 would be a good compromise for the roads and corners.

You do know they're completely different riding positions Nogster - the 750 has clipons!
Around town at low speeds, I prefer flat bars. For every other riding, I prefer clipons - so as little of my riding is around town a sports bike made more sense!
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Yeh joe appreciate that mate.......id love to try a bike with clip ons and see what fun i can have.........wrist pain would be less of a concern to me than legs being too cramped....leg cramp is just bloody awful......the lying down position although limiting vision ahead over cars etc i also think i would quite like.


Interested in following anutz here to see what his whole experience is.......then ill be getting a bigger shed so i have room for another bike 8)

[nick crisp]

I wouldn't go for the 1000 EXUP as first sports bike, very heavy steering in comparison to newer bikes, even using lots of countersteer it still took a lot of muscle to pull it down into turns.

This is what I mean by going for something with a bit more development. Plenty of modern upright bikes probably handle as good or better than earlier sports bikes, so I think you might be short-changing yourself by buying older models. It seems many experienced riders rate the K5 as the best of the bunch - that's the one I would aim for, and even then, you're still talking about a bike that's 10 years behind. My own sports bike experience is waaaay out of date, but I do understand that things have come a long way since I could ride them, and don't see the point of going back to older tech if you want to sample that world. Sports bikes are about cutting edge in handling and performance - I say save a bit more, and go later.

[anutz]

looking at K4/5 models, they are in the 2-3K bracket and there is a few on ebay regularly, cannot afford K6+ as they seem to jump 3K+

[joebloggs]

In reply to Hedgetrimmers last post this was also why I mentioned the 400 market, OK so didn't understand the size of the op but as fars as cutting edge sports bikes go something like a FZR400 RRSP, chassis wise, is going to be up there with the best of them. They were only produced to allow them to compete in the Japanese home race series, and not being to powerful means you can scream the hell out of the engine (17000 rpm) and use the race derived chassis to attack corners like you can only dream of on larger capacity bikes.

I've never ridden the FZR but had a blast on a Tri arm and a ZXR400 and both were amazing fun. I took the Honda down one of my favorite roads and had my foot wedged between the road and frame through one of the corners, completely bonkers.

[JoeRock]

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[quote author=noggythenog link=topic=18589.msg214669#msg214669 date=1446381179]
I would listen to the trimmer of hedges
 




He has lots of experience of crashing.  Riding that class of motorcycle :b




For what its worth id like to try a gsxr 750 too but i know it wouldnt be comfy for me as my fz1 wasnt. The fz1 was pretty heavy and i think the lightweight 750 would be a good compromise for the roads and corners.

You do know they're completely different riding positions Nogster - the 750 has clipons!
Around town at low speeds, I prefer flat bars. For every other riding, I prefer clipons - so as little of my riding is around town a sports bike made more sense!
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Yeh joe appreciate that mate.......id love to try a bike with clip ons and see what fun i can have.........wrist pain would be less of a concern to me than legs being too cramped....leg cramp is just bloody awful......the lying down position although limiting vision ahead over cars etc i also think i would quite like.


Interested in following anutz here to see what his whole experience is.......then ill be getting a bigger shed so i have room for another bike 8)
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Rearsets - just adjust them down and back!


Time for the shed extension and the "what sports bike should I get" thread? 

[simonm]

What a hilarious question :-).

Why not compare chalk and cheese ?

Gonna go touring in Europe, then a Fazer is the answer.

Want to go hell for leather on the track or twisties then the GSXR 750 is just a stunningly superb piece of kit.

I'll give the Suzuki stick with every breath I draw purely because it is about as chav bling as you get ....BUT.... what an awesome piece of kit.  Superb handling, superb engine.

If you do get one, the newer the better, the old K1/W versions had gearboxes made out of chocolate.  It's an immense amount of power for a 750 so look after it.  If anything goes wrong expect it to be expensive.

Anyone who wants to disagree..... you're welcome to your educate opinion over my hearsay any day of the week.

[noggythenog]

Interesting point from Joe about rear sets.........i had them on my FZ1 & there was no ammount of adjusting that would make them comfortable.......but this was on an upright bike.


Guessing that Anutz is reasonably tall, above 5 foot 10.........then leg position may also play a part in deciding.


I suppose that with lying down you can then extend the legs backwards and perhaps there is a sportsbike out there that has a long hirizontal reach to the pegs.......mentioned this a few times before but i sat on an R1 once......i think it was only a few years old.....again i was surprised as to look at i thought theres no way that will be comfy but because i was lying down my feet on the rearsets felt quite natural as if i could happily lie there like a wild cat lying on a branch.


But yeh if i was looking for a sports bike i think thats what id do...measure the horizontal distance to the pegs.....they all have to have a certain distance vertically to stop grounding but nobody seems to mention the horizontal distance.

[anutz]

Interesting point from Joe about rear sets.........i had them on my FZ1 & there was no ammount of adjusting that would make them comfortable.......but this was on an upright bike.


Guessing that Anutz is reasonably tall, above 5 foot 10.........then leg position may also play a part in deciding.


I suppose that with lying down you can then extend the legs backwards and perhaps there is a sportsbike out there that has a long hirizontal reach to the pegs.......mentioned this a few times before but i sat on an R1 once......i think it was only a few years old.....again i was surprised as to look at i thought theres no way that will be comfy but because i was lying down my feet on the rearsets felt quite natural as if i could happily lie there like a wild cat lying on a branch.


But yeh if i was looking for a sports bike i think thats what id do...measure the horizontal distance to the pegs.....they all have to have a certain distance vertically to stop grounding but nobody seems to mention the horizontal distance.

you flatter me noggy, i am 5 ft 9, and about as wide  :lol , i also seem to have short legs and a long body, so i look very strange...almost ape like

[noggythenog]

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Interesting point from Joe about rear sets.........i had them on my FZ1 & there was no ammount of adjusting that would make them comfortable.......but this was on an upright bike.


Guessing that Anutz is reasonably tall, above 5 foot 10.........then leg position may also play a part in deciding.


I suppose that with lying down you can then extend the legs backwards and perhaps there is a sportsbike out there that has a long hirizontal reach to the pegs.......mentioned this a few times before but i sat on an R1 once......i think it was only a few years old.....again i was surprised as to look at i thought theres no way that will be comfy but because i was lying down my feet on the rearsets felt quite natural as if i could happily lie there like a wild cat lying on a branch.


But yeh if i was looking for a sports bike i think thats what id do...measure the horizontal distance to the pegs.....they all have to have a certain distance vertically to stop grounding but nobody seems to mention the horizontal distance.

you flatter me noggy, i am 5 ft 9, and about as wide  :lol , i also seem to have short legs and a long body, so i look very strange...almost ape like
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Thats alright mate........im a ferengi :evil

[Deefer666]

'll give the Suzuki stick with every breath I draw purely because it is about as chav bling as you get ....BUT.... what an awesome piece of kit.  Superb handling, superb engine.

Nah that's why they created the R6/R1.... to keep the chavs and the wankers off of gixxers

[noggythenog]

8) .....bit more classy....what id have...although im not classy .

[anutz]

So i have one!!!!!


So far its extremely comfy just sitting on it and moving it around, but will need a ride.

Insuring it now!

[JoeRock]

Interesting point from Joe about rear sets.........i had them on my FZ1 & there was no ammount of adjusting that would make them comfortable.......but this was on an upright bike.


Guessing that Anutz is reasonably tall, above 5 foot 10.........then leg position may also play a part in deciding.


I suppose that with lying down you can then extend the legs backwards and perhaps there is a sportsbike out there that has a long hirizontal reach to the pegs.......mentioned this a few times before but i sat on an R1 once......i think it was only a few years old.....again i was surprised as to look at i thought theres no way that will be comfy but because i was lying down my feet on the rearsets felt quite natural as if i could happily lie there like a wild cat lying on a branch.


But yeh if i was looking for a sports bike i think thats what id do...measure the horizontal distance to the pegs.....they all have to have a certain distance vertically to stop grounding but nobody seems to mention the horizontal distance.

Other option Noggy - you can get jack up plates (poor mans rearsets) for nearly every bike off eBay. Just flip them to the other side and they're now down and back instead of up and forward. Quite a lot of the older guys have done that on the ZX9R forum so they can keep riding them at 70+!

[sinto607276]

So i have one!!!!!


So far its extremely comfy just sitting on it and moving it around, but will need a ride.

Insuring it now!

Looks mint anutz, cracking find I think

But I would say, get your leathers on and give it a whirl and report back with your big grin on your face :b

[anutz]

its in very nice condition, very happy with it, need to get some drier weather, but i have been around the block on it a few times and it handles very nicely, i really like the riding position, but can understand why some do not.