Verging On Buying A Second Bike - What would you have?

[bigralphie]

I had a gear sensor hiccup on the Dorsoduro but it was sorted under warranty
I chopped it in for a V2 Tuono factory now that major electrical meltdown, fryed its stator in the channel tunnel car park  :'(

[nick crisp]

Hang on a minute....Have you  :hijack  'ed Nicks thread.  :lol

Foc it. If it gets folks talking about bikes instead of bloody politics, go for it! Thread title altered 

[nick crisp]

Ah, two strokes! All getting so bloody expensive though    Wish I'd bought that 350LC that was at the Stafford show!  :'(

Foccin ell dazza, that 500LC one looks barking!  :eek

[dazza]

You're not wrong there Nick,  would sell what's left of my soul to own that.
There was talk a few years ago of Yamaha re' introducing the rd350 and a 350 updated version of the tdr, second picture down.
If only they would, I would buy one in a heartbeat.

[Rikki]

You might be able to get one of these next year:

[slimwilly]

Nick, i heard you need one with stabillisers :lol :lol :lol

[positron]

Nick, if you really like MT09, have you considered selling the FZ1 (I know... hear me out) and buying a brand new MT09 Tracer thing that's coming out in 2015? It's an Yamaha, it's an MT09, and it has about as much fairing as a Fazer, and it sure looks comfortable!

[nick crisp]

Nick, i heard you need one with stabillisers :lol :lol :lol

Mate, I need stabilisers just for walking  :rolleyes

have you considered selling the  Fazer

What? WHAT??!! Have you taken leave of your senses?! Go and wash your mouth out with soap!  :lol

Seriously, I love the  :faz  too much. This isn't about finding a replacement for it, it just does everything too well. This, for me, is just about a passion for bikes, and wanting to try some different stuff. I am in the enviable position of being able, if I really wanted, to go and buy a Kawasaki H2R, or a KTM1290 SDR, and still carry through with the plans for my move next year. But I do still have a more practical side ( :z  :lol ), and £5k seems a reasonable spend to start with. Can get a choice of some pretty good stuff at that price. I will never buy new again. It's an experience that everyone should have at least once in their life perhaps, but been there, done that, not going to take the depreciation hit anymore. And as I said, for me, the MT09 is yet to prove itself. I've read of a number of people who have bought them and then immediately gone and splashed out £100s of pounds to upgrade the suspension for one thing. Why should anyone need to do that if they've just laid out for a brand new bike? Seems daft to me. Ok, you might do it on a 2nd hander, but if I ever did buy new again, it had better be right from the start.

[Deefer666]

I'd have this as my second bike....



Oh yeah, that is my second bike! 

[positron]

Soap? I have heard of that alright, rich vain folks and their fancy shtuff. Waste of water I say.

Alright, I take that all back.

[fazersharp]

Nick, if you really like MT09, have you considered selling the FZ1 (I know... hear me out) and buying a brand new MT09 Tracer thing that's coming out in 2015? It's an Yamaha, it's an MT09, and it has about as much fairing as a Fazer, and it sure looks comfortable!

That looks much better with some fairing and comes with hand guards that I have been trying to fit, but why do they insist on using gold folks they don't go

[JoeRock]

[quote author=slimwilly link=topic=15404.msg175845#msg175845 date=1417502163]
Nick, i heard you need one with stabillisers :lol :lol :lol

Mate, I need stabilisers just for walking  :rolleyes

have you considered selling the  Fazer

What? WHAT??!! Have you taken leave of your senses?! Go and wash your mouth out with soap!  :lol

Seriously, I love the  :faz  too much. This isn't about finding a replacement for it, it just does everything too well. This, for me, is just about a passion for bikes, and wanting to try some different stuff. I am in the enviable position of being able, if I really wanted, to go and buy a Kawasaki H2R, or a KTM1290 SDR, and still carry through with the plans for my move next year. But I do still have a more practical side ( :z  :lol ), and £5k seems a reasonable spend to start with. Can get a choice of some pretty good stuff at that price. I will never buy new again. It's an experience that everyone should have at least once in their life perhaps, but been there, done that, not going to take the depreciation hit anymore. And as I said, for me, the MT09 is yet to prove itself. I've read of a number of people who have bought them and then immediately gone and splashed out £100s of pounds to upgrade the suspension for one thing. Why should anyone need to do that if they've just laid out for a brand new bike? Seems daft to me. Ok, you might do it on a 2nd hander, but if I ever did buy new again, it had better be right from the start.
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And people haven't done that exact same thing with the rather poor suspension on the FZS 1000? :lol

[nick crisp]

Yeah, but I bought that for much less money 2nd hand, and with 17k on the clock when I got it, the rear standard shock didn't have much left in it. But I'd have thought twice about buying a new one and needing to replace the shock straight away. And the standard front suspension doesn't seem too bad. Plus, being a model I really love, I don't mind spending a bit on it - didn't do anything much to my last three, but decided this is the one that gets the treatment 

It's paying all that money for a brand new bike, and needing to sort the suspenders immediately, that I balk at. They probably put cheap stuff on for the reasons they always do - introducing a new model, get it in the showrooms at an affordable price, hope people are so knocked out by a great new motor that they're prepared to forgive the crap handling, and maybe it'll get a good reputation anyway. Trouble with that view is, it can shoot them in the foot, as if everybody pans the handling from the get-go, they'll lose sales anyway.

Although having said that, the gen 1 thou hit the showrooms at a stupid high price, proving there's always an exception to the rule  :rolleyes

[dazza]

Thinking about this idea of what would you have as a second bike,  my imagination starts to go a bit wild.
First thought was a sm but then a dedicated track bike springs to mind as it's so much fun and I wouldn't want to bin my every day ride.
Then there is a turbo 'd Busa so I could hit that 200 mph + Mark.
Then for those long touring trips an FJR 1300 or a big old Goldwing.
Then there is the 1980's two stroke classic route.
I suppose you've got to stop and think about what would get the most use or what you really want.
I'm afraid I can't make my mind up so would have to work my way through all the above and then probably some more.

[JZS 600]

Saw the Tracer at the NEC, V nice.

[noggythenog]

Thinking about this idea of what would you have as a second bike,  my imagination starts to go a bit wild.
First thought was a sm but then a dedicated track bike springs to mind as it's so much fun and I wouldn't want to bin my every day ride.
Then there is a turbo 'd Busa so I could hit that 200 mph + Mark.
Then for those long touring trips an FJR 1300 or a big old Goldwing.
Then there is the 1980's two stroke classic route.
I suppose you've got to stop and think about what would get the most use or what you really want.
I'm afraid I can't make my mind up so would have to work my way through all the above and then probably some more.

Hey Dazza.....simples.....jus buy my gen2....£2500 mate for a track toy that you can ride there and back......it's too foccin stiff for the road i know that much......then i can buy somethin sensible.


Strangely enough i seen one o those TDR 250 on ebay and the guy was willing to swap for a track bike.....but it said pre 1990 track bike.

[noggythenog]

Hey Nick, some bike porn for ya.

for a mere £1800 Powerbronze now do this café racer kit for the Triple which is carbon fibre and completely bolt on everything. Just read about it in MCN.

LED front lamp, floating rear number plate holder, you swivel the bars down to look like clip ons.

not saying youd have and extra 2k kicking about just for cosmetics but it does give options to those who wouldn't have a street because they are common. 8)

[bri h]

Im starting to feel my ripe old years now and have to admit my reactions are even slower than they used to be. I could never let the fazer go but i do fancy a guzzi grisso.It would be safer for everyone

[ChristoT]

Hey Nick, some bike porn for ya.

for a mere £1800 Powerbronze now do this café racer kit for the Triple which is carbon fibre and completely bolt on everything. Just read about it in MCN.

LED front lamp, floating rear number plate holder, you swivel the bars down to look like clip ons.

not saying youd have and extra 2k kicking about just for cosmetics but it does give options to those who wouldn't have a street because they are common. 8)

Looks cool, but not a fan of the headlight. A single bulb would look way cooler.

[noggythenog]

I've gotta say i'm  still looking at low powered twins.


I do like the sounds of the reviews of the MT07.....riding wise...........but on the whole it looks a little bit small......i think id look like a mutant on it........but perrformance wise i think it is all that i need.


Same goes for the ER6 which is supposed to be a good little bike.


A SM would be perfect for the A and B roads but there just isnt one from the right manufacturer at the right price that i would have.


Twins aside the Street triple looks perfect but again theres the overall size and price etc.....Everything points to it being a perfect UK road bike


Im actually looking at the Kawasaki 650 Verysys now because it has the simillar type twin engine yet it looks more like a grown ups bike that i would fit and will be ample in the 60-80mph area....it's tall for looking over cars and welsh hedges.