Increase in MPG/K&N

[fazersharp]

Do you have the large rubber shroud/ skirt/hood fitted thing that also acts as a rubber grab for the side pannels

[darrsi]

Do you have the large rubber shroud/ skirt/hood fitted thing that also acts as a rubber grab for the side pannels

Yep

[His Dudeness]

The oily crap comes from over filling the oil or from excessive gases getting past the rings and pressurising the crankcase causing oil to get pushed into the airbox.  There's a pretty big kink in that breather too so it'll get blocked quick enough and then the lovely mayo builds up from water vapour not being able to get through the breather. That's my theory anyway and I'm sticking to it :lol

[fazersharp]

[quote author=fazersharp link=topic=11419.msg122849#msg122849 date=1390513117]
Do you have the large rubber shroud/ skirt/hood fitted thing that also acts as a rubber grab for the side pannels

Yep
[/quote]
Ok I was thinking -- somone on here was asking if they could do away with all that faff of a thing and although i know it wasnt you I thought maybe somone before you removed it, and then I thought ---yes that is what it is for - to prevent excess moisture.

Anyway its still only you (on this forum ) with a FZS 600 that "thinks" there is a difference with a K&N filter with reguard to responce and performance. Dont get me wrong I want to be convinced.

[fazersharp]

The oily crap comes from over filling the oil or from excessive gases getting past the rings and pressurising the crankcase causing oil to get pushed into the airbox.  There's a pretty big kink in that breather too so it'll get blocked quick enough and then the lovely mayo builds up from water vapour not being able to get through the breather. That's my theory anyway and I'm sticking to it :lol

Now you see you have got alot of big words there and so im convinced

[darrsi]

The oily crap comes from over filling the oil or from excessive gases getting past the rings and pressurising the crankcase causing oil to get pushed into the airbox.  There's a pretty big kink in that breather too so it'll get blocked quick enough and then the lovely mayo builds up from water vapour not being able to get through the breather. That's my theory anyway and I'm sticking to it :lol

That's what i meant to say  :lol

[His Dudeness]

[quote author=His Dudeness link=topic=11419.msg122854#msg122854 date=1390514084]
The oily crap comes from over filling the oil or from excessive gases getting past the rings and pressurising the crankcase causing oil to get pushed into the airbox.  There's a pretty big kink in that breather too so it'll get blocked quick enough and then the lovely mayo builds up from water vapour not being able to get through the breather. That's my theory anyway and I'm sticking to it :lol

Now you see you have got alot of big words there and so im convinced
[/quote]

What like crankcase? That's not big and I think it might be two words :lol I thought we'd done the k&n debate before and someone had dynographs showing there was no increase in power but that it  gave a better power curve so you get better mid range whatever that means :lol I haveone because you can clean it and reuse it. If you don't have one I don't think you're losing out anything really

[darrsi]

[quote author=darrsi link=topic=11419.msg122850#msg122850 date=1390513571]
[quote author=fazersharp link=topic=11419.msg122849#msg122849 date=1390513117]
Do you have the large rubber shroud/ skirt/hood fitted thing that also acts as a rubber grab for the side pannels

Yep
[/quote]
Ok I was thinking -- somone on here was asking if they could do away with all that faff of a thing and although i know it wasnt you I thought maybe somone before you removed it, and then I thought ---yes that is what it is for - to prevent excess moisture.

Anyway its still only you (on this forum ) with a FZS 600 that "thinks" there is a difference with a K&N filter with reguard to responce and performance. Dont get me wrong I want to be convinced.
[/quote]


If you want to be convinced........buy one!

[69oldskool]

Yet to fit  a K&n to my Fazer,really must do this Spring.

Previous vehicles so fitted defo gave better pickup plus slightly better mpg.

k&n negatives:
              temperamental wet weather starting, why? or if this also applies to fazer version  i do not know.
                Slightly alarming that when you hold a K&N up to the light you can see pin holes!  :eek Anyone?

[darrsi]

Yet to fit  a K&n to my Fazer,really must do this Spring.

Previous vehicles so fitted defo gave better pickup plus slightly better mpg.

k&n negatives:
              temperamental wet weather starting, why? or if this also applies to fazer version  i do not know.
                Slightly alarming that when you hold a K&N up to the light you can see pin holes!  :eek Anyone?

I've never had problems with starting in wet weather, that sounds like an issue elsewhere.

[69oldskool]

Two seperate vehicles, both fine with standard filter, but grumbled with a damp plus K&N combo.

No matter,
              i'm happy to take your word for it if it's not an issue with fazers.

[darrsi]

Only really had minor grief starting in extreme cold weather, but even that was cured once i started using the choke, otherwise it starts on the button every time.