The realisation that I'm too old and arthritic for superbikes

[Ruby Racing]

Yamaha are doing the MT 10 in an SP version why not do that with the full beans R1 engine ?? It looks like Triumph are getting the idea with the new 765 striple 3 versions of the same bike with 3 states of engine tune with the full fat version RS putting out 128bhp and ohlins suspension and brembo brakes, it's not cheap at 12.5K.

But then the new Triple is not a detuned Daytona, it's a model in it's own right. Or is it?   


What's the betting a Daytona 765 is on the cards?


You could always do what I did and build your own full fat naked. Behold my Daytona Street:

[Graham53]

I would love to build one , however I lack workshop , probable large sums of ££ but most of all the mechanical knowledge/talent/confidence in my own abilities not to foc it up and it fall apart at warp speed  :rolleyes
However I'm impressed at yours and prefer it to the RS looks wise due to its fuggly afterthought of a headlight/ fairing thingy...... behold £12500 128bhp trumpet that I think is a new bike but the Daytona will be exactly the same but with fairing and clip ons , which begs the question if sales are better than the Daytona how long before there's a sit up Version of all sports bikes which after all is where this thread started.

[Ruby Racing]

However I'm impressed at yours and prefer it to the RS looks wise

Thank you. 

[Dave48]

Makes you wonder how large the "sports" bike sector is nowadays. So many of us have become older(or prone to the afflictions of ageing), many migrated to the "adventure" experience in the years following Charlie & Ewans much publicised trips. The younger element in motorcycling is much smaller than a few years ago & there is a distinct "fashion" aspect to such as the "yard built" creations-Im not knocking it but as a community we are getting older & there are many obstacles for new riders to overcome on their way to a full licence-many simply dont bother.
Sat in a bikers cafe on Saturday morning I was looking at some "old fella"(possibly younger than me!) as he struggled to dismount & then later mount his Fireblade-frankly he looked very uncomfortable.

[Ruby Racing]

Makes you wonder how large the "sports" bike sector is nowadays.

It's going down hill, but more nakeds are selling.


The 600 sports bikes sales have dropped through the floor. Honda have stopped selling the CBR600RR in Europe as it's not Euro 4 compliant and I'm pretty sure Kawasaki has stopped selling the ZX-6R too. Not sure about the Suzuki. Only Yamaha brought out a new R6 last year. Although there was a report in one of the mags that a couple of years ago Yamaha had sold a couple of thousand R6's in a year, but in 2016 it was in the low hundreds.

[Fazer99]

The only "Sports bikes" that seem to be selling are the lower CC ie CBR125, R-125, Ninja 300 and R3 as they are being bought by the younger generation as a cool  8) looking bike to impress their mates or attract a shagg interest  ex because they either only have a CBT or restricted licence, then they either go and buy a car or if they do continue and get a full bike licence they get a proper bike they can't afford the full on Sports bike like the R1.

[Dudeofrude]

The only "Sports bikes" that seem to be selling are the lower CC ie CBR125, R-125, Ninja 300 and R3 as they are being bought by the younger generation as a cool  8) looking bike to impress their mates or attract a shagg interest  ex because they either only have a CBT or restricted licence, then they either go and buy a car or if they do continue and get a full bike licence they get a proper bike they can't afford the full on Sports bike like the R1.

I suppose in many ways it's becoming like the car industry, the young and inexperienced are being forced onto slower more sensible machines. After all you wouldn't pass your car test then buy a Ferrari

[Graham53]

The only "Sports bikes" that seem to be selling are the lower CC ie CBR125, R-125, Ninja 300 and R3 as they are being bought by the younger generation as a cool  8) looking bike to impress their mates or attract a shagg interest  ex because they either only have a CBT or restricted licence, then they either go and buy a car or if they do continue and get a full bike licence they get a proper bike they can't afford the full on Sports bike like the R1.

Has anyone noticed that there are WSS 300 series now running with WSB that clearly shows the popularity of the above mentioned ninja and R3

[taylor]

i was thinking about getting my raleigh chopper out,  thats my sports bike.

[Oldgit]

I'm both old and arthritic, but what the Foc, just get on and do it.

[fazersharp]

i was thinking about getting my raleigh chopper out,  thats my sports bike.

FOC those things are lethal - I still have the scars to prove it, tiny front wheel - gravel on path - sharp corner. I am pretty sure that there is still some of the 70s gravel in my forearm   

[robbo]

Not to mention the possibility of the gear lever in the bollocks. :eek

[fazersharp]

And then there's, across the MK2 seat
WARNING THIS BICYCLE IS NOT DESIGNED TO CARRY PASSENGERS
Like FOC it ain't

[VNA]

MT10 looks interesting.  But, it's thirsty and has a silly small tank.  why?

Anyway not sure I want all that power anymore.  I'd like something that looks good, is fun and relaxing to ride.

Love the look of Triumph's Street Twin, but where's the full power 1200 engine?  Thruxton looks nice, but I don't want low bars.

Tempted by a R Nine T or R Nine T pure to be honest.  They look fab, upright bars and 110bhp should be enougth for buzzing about.

[darrsi]

MT10 looks interesting.  But, it's thirsty and has a silly small tank.  why?

Anyway not sure I want all that power anymore.  I'd like something that looks good, is fun and relaxing to ride.

Love the look of Triumph's Street Twin, but where's the full power 1200 engine?  Thruxton looks nice, but I don't want low bars.

Tempted by a R Nine T or R Nine T pure to be honest.  They look fab, upright bars and 110bhp should be enougth for buzzing about.

See that a lot with bigger bikes, they put a daft sized tank on them, i've never understood the reasoning behind it?

[ogri48]

MT10 looks interesting.  But, it's thirsty and has a silly small tank.  why?

Anyway not sure I want all that power anymore.  I'd like something that looks good, is fun and relaxing to ride.

Love the look of Triumph's Street Twin, but where's the full power 1200 engine?  Thruxton looks nice, but I don't want low bars.

Tempted by a R Nine T or R Nine T pure to be honest.  They look fab, upright bars and 110bhp should be enougth for buzzing about.

I blagged a go on a mates r nine t last summer, couldn't believe how good it was. The looks don't do it for me but, but that engine was incredible, you'd never believe it was a flat twin. I've had four days off uni so jumped back on the trowel and got my corners up on the workshop along with some stonework on the back walls. I can't believe how knackered I am. Definitely getting too old to be a builder. Doing the 360 mile round trip to see the kids and grandkids in peterborough today and I was gonna give the zzr a run, but I'll stick with the fazer ..back is still killing me even after a good nights sleep

[tommyardin]

Hey Ogri!,
Why not use profiles instead of racking up corners? it's so much easier.
When building up to DPC leave purps out 1.5 X 2 bricks out either side of corners, profiles up and your away.
we found them much better than racking corners, firstly your on the line straight away, much faster, plus when running the line in  between the corners you only have to have a slight difference in the gauge, different batch of sand or cement even and you can see where the corner was racked up for ever.
That aside bloody nice looking workshop, I'm not green with envy  :look
[size=1em]Would liked to have seen a picture of the stone work, that is what I used to love doing, random sand stone with strap pointing, it looks so bloody cool and classy, but expensive to do.[/size]
[size=1em]That would have been my ideal home, a cottage built in random sandstone, but I would have wanted to have built it myself.[/size]
[size=1em]I'm going past a stonework job today that I did, [/size]must be 38 years ago, I might stop and grab a photo. 

A few hire company's hire out profiles sets around here,

[ogri48]

That's a great idea mate. Much like the two you can see leaning on the back wall?;-) I couldn't build without them in truth..I just ran up some big corners to get everything level and because I'm on me Todd so it's some big runs...and your right, it does show up if the mortar slightly off or bricks not mixed in but it's for me brother in law so I'm being proper careful with gauging and mixing the Ibstocks up. I love stonework too, there's loads of it here,  the whole place is built on top of clear well caves and there's an old vertical mineshaft that the yanks filled up with munitions and stuff when ww2 ended. If your close to me I could do with another trowel next week on them long flanks...;-)

[VNA]

I blagged a go on a mates r nine t last summer, couldn't believe how good it was. The looks don't do it for me but, but that engine was incredible, you'd never believe it was a flat twin. I've had four days off uni so jumped back on the trowel and got my corners up on the workshop along with some stonework on the back walls.

Workshop?  Looks like you are building a foccing factory ogri
Have you seen the new Nine T Pure?  Not yet seen either of them in the flesh, but I like the photos I’ve seen.  Seat looks a bit small and thin.  Wonder what’s it’s like on a long day oot.  Will need to see if I can get a wee blast on one.  Like the way the pared doon bikes show off that mad boxer engine.

[lew600fazer]

Just get a re map and ecu flash and you are up there or nearly with the MT10 A lad does re flash for the MT09 they have achieved 175mph on the dyno. So I suppose on the road with a rider what 160/165 mph.
How many actually use the top end anyway, just gear the bike accordingly for what you really want.  Either top end or mid range.