Election

[slimwilly]

The country has spoken !!!

[Dead Eye]

Interesting predictions... most of which turned out a little far off the mark though I certainly didn't expect the Conservatives to get the lead they have (I did vote for them though... half expecting to be lynched by a foccer mob now...)

[BBROWN1664]

Proportional representation. How would that really work.

650 seats in Westminster. only 66% of voters turned out so 221 seats need to remain vacant.
At the moment, Conservatives have around 37% of the total vote so they can have 158 seats. Now the hard part. 321 (at the moment) MP's squeezing into 158 seats. who decides which muppet gets a seat?
Even more interesting, the Greens got about 4% of the overall votes but only one MP. Using PR they should get 17 seats in Westminster. Who decides which 16 un-elected people get a say in government?

[celticdog]

Nowt's changed. 5 more years, as you where . . . move along now nothing to see  :z

[maddog04]

to quote a Beatles line...................."I can't believe the news today"

either a massive stitch up has occurred or the country is full of knob heads (not directed at the true blues on here)

on the basis that's there's more lower paid/less well off than rich people and that the whole of the public sector are being done over by the tories (NHS/teachers/civil servants/emergency workers etc etc) then how the foc did they get in.......I'm not a fan of Milliband but I thought it was a done deal for Labour. A lot of people have been caught stone cold today

as I write, the tories have 323 seats and I think you need 326 otherwise its a coalition of some sort (I suspect all the votes are in now) so if that is the case, then who's going in with Cameron?

I'm worried for the country I really am. to quote another line from another group......."I predict a riot"...............watch this space

[Dead Eye]

Conservatives are up to 327 seats as of about 1 pm so they have the majority and don't need to enter in to a Coalition

As for proportional representation... it's good in theory, but the reform would be complex I expect. Only two methods I can think of; make each seat worth the same amount of voters (more or less a completely impractical / impossible) or assign a point value to each seat based on the representative amount of voters and tally points to determine leading party instead of the number of seats. Realistically I have no idea on how that would ultimately impact other processes of governing

[fazersharp]

Interesting predictions... most of which turned out a little far off the mark

Er not quite,

Another prediction --Labour will loose - ed will resign -

[Dead Eye]

Most, not all I reserve the right to be a pedantic bastard

[slimwilly]

Let,s see what the next five years bring

Looking at the coloured map,,England was almost totally blue,,reds have small patches because they seem to huddle into small unionised cities,lots of working  (or not,ethnical lkes too) red voters.
All them immigrants,you know,,economic or what you call them,,umm refugees,,do they vote Labour ?

This country is said to have one of the best growing economies in the world,,will that relay onto the workers as the employers feel safer or turn over more work,profit?

With the cuts to public services,,mostly good cuts,,some a bit hard to swallow,,will the countrys borrowing slow or stop,,can the deficit be cut,,,who the fuck borrowed all them BILLIONS,,Labour?

[darrsi]

:lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vczSt2RL...e=youtu.be

[Razgruff]

will the countrys borrowing slow or stop,,can the deficit be cut,,,who the fuck borrowed all them BILLIONS,,Labour?

http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk/...trust.html

[slimwilly]

Haha,, do you believe in internet posters,,,who or  what do you believe ?

This politics is in the way you read it,,all politicians seem to make a good answer from any situation presented to them,,no matter how bad.

It seems that Labour voters are sad and now neglected,,abandoned by their not so left politicians,,(old conservatives)

Its odd how a party is voted in by majority and still people have grumps,,,

Why have the Conservatives been voted in for another chance to lead the country?  the people did it

Does anyone tell the truth,,or is their as much good as bad but some only focus on the bad

[Razgruff]

I believe the governments own figures.

http://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/uk_nat...chart.html

[slimwilly]

Sit down and shut up


You are being ruled by the Conservatives  :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol


Oh and just like a politician you omitted this from the page you copied the above info,,please read

===The National Debt began a rapid increase in the aftermath of the worldwide financial crisis of 2008. 

[unfazed]

Came across the percentages of vote a while ago

Conservatives    36.9% of the vote
Labour              30.5% of the vote
UKIP                  12.6% of the vote
Lib Dems            7.8% of the vote
SNP                    4.7% of the vote
Green                  3.8% of the vote
Others                3.7% of the vote

No matter what way you add this up 63% of the population who voted do not want a Conservative government.  :eek
         
In a highly developed, intelligent country like the UK you allow this and call it a fair election. :'( (Well maybe not fair  )

Proportional Representation ensure only those who the voters want are elected by allowing more voting choices :thumbup

I rest my case  :lol

[esetest]

I voted green , not that my vote made any difference , Bristol South is a safe labour seat , the wife is more pissed off with me that i didn't vote Labour instead of buying a new bike .
I am disappointed for the country that the Tories can carry on  with the cuts and increasing the deficit , will they honour there pledge for an in/out referendum on Europe . :evil
On the up side now i am employed rather than through an agency at least i don't have to  pay the umbrella tax anymore , and with my increase in salary putting me in a higher tax band i will personally be better off , every cloud eh .

[esetest]

[Its funny how the Tories will attack the unions for that having a mandate to strike based on that principle , but are more than happy to form a government .uote author=unfazed link=topic=16874.msg194609#msg194609 date=1431110293]
Came across the percentages of vote a while ago

Conservatives    36.9% of the vote
Labour              30.5% of the vote
UKIP                  12.6% of the vote
Lib Dems            7.8% of the vote
SNP                    4.7% of the vote
Green                  3.8% of the vote
Others                3.7% of the vote

No matter what way you add this up 63% of the population who voted do not want a Conservative government.  :eek
         
In a highly developed, intelligent country like the UK you allow this and call it a fair election. :'( (Well maybe not fair  )

Proportional Representation ensure only those who the voters want are elected by allowing more voting choices :thumbup

I rest my case  :lol

[VNA]

This should have been a stroll in the park for Labour,

But here's VNA's analysis of why they lost it;

1.  The Labour party did not back their leader.

Forget all the crap about his geekyness and the press being on his back.  Wee Eck didn't exactly have a great public image and he much much more bad press than Ed, but he had his party 100% behind him.

2.  They backed the wrong team in Scotland.  They put Jim Murphy in charge - ordinary people saw straight through him.  A man who stands today for all he fought against for the last ten years, and he thought he could bribe a slice of the electorate with the offer of a pint at the football.  Now if they had of put Neil Findlay in charge with Katie Clark as deputy, well it wouldn't be great but they might have hung on to half their Scottish seats.

3.  Same problem as above, the Labour party is in turmoil, they need to stand for something, move to the left and stop trying to be the pale blue tory party.  Ed was the right man but they wouldn't get behind him.

4.  Scotland.  The Tory's played the Labour party being in coalition game with the SNP brilliantly.  Nicola Sturgeon presented as the most dangerous woman in the land, and so forth.  Labour failed to hit back and people bought this nonsense.  The media seemed to overlook the fact that the Conservatives would dump into bed with the DUP in a flash - apparently that's OK.  The downside to this is, having insulted Scotland in order to win a majority, will Dave now be the man that loses the union?

What a result for the SNP though.  Perhaps Labour, Lib Dems and the Tories will share a single mini cab to get to London.  Ho ho.

[Grahamm]

Here's the difference between what we got and how the people voted...

https://secure.avaaz.org/en/uk_electoral...b/?tCwjWbb

[redfox1]

To bring all this down to a Fazer level,more local government cuts will certainly result in more potholes on our already glorious roads!