Petrol prices

[noggythenog]

I think what's quite clear, is that the price is not down to the natural market forces of supply and demand. It's a political/commercial weapon, and us poor sods will end up paying whatever we're told to pay !
Hope low prices last until next summer  :woot

im with you here....I was wondering earlier about how much of this is to hurt Russia too as they are now struggling again with the drop in what they can sell their oil and gas for.

[lew600fazer]

Would certainly hurt an independent Scotland

[slappy]

Would certainly hurt an independent Scotland

Now now Lew, stop poking VNA. :lol

[VNA]

It's gonna hurt the UK Lew, big time.

Loads of North Sea Investment will be on hold shortly.

If the price keeps falling, they might stop some production.

And yes it's gonna hurt Scotland, looks likes thousands and thousands of job losses up here.

And perhaps worse than that is that the last thing the world needs right now is cheap fossil fuels.  It's gonna bite us all.

[lew600fazer]

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Would certainly hurt an independent Scotland

Now now Lew, stop poking VNA. :lol
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Sorry Slappy, could not resist, suddenly though it is going to hurt the UK now, but I thought it was Scottish oil?? Do not see how it is going to hurt the Motorists south of the border. We will be fracking our own gas soon enough, Fossil fuels, who gives a fuck the planet is bollocked anyway.
:evil :pokefun

[VNA]

Sorry Slappy, could not resist, suddenly though it is going to hurt the UK now, but I thought it was Scottish oil?? Do not see how it is going to hurt the Motorists south of the border. We will be fracking our own gas soon enough, Fossil fuels, who gives a fuck the planet is bollocked anyway.
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Well yeah the UK economy is focced, focced through decades of following a neo liberal privatise everything agenda.

I'd love it to be Scotland's oil, even at 60 dollars a barrel.  We'll take it.

As for foc the planet.  There is not a lot you can do to destroy the planet Lew, it will survive and continue what ever we do.  What is possible, is that the human race and great many other species may become extinct.

And of course whilst we won't be the first species to become extinct, we will be the first in the history of our planet to not only know it was going to happen, but remarkably we have the ability to stop it from happening, but it seems the likely hood is that we will keep our fingers firmly on the self destruct button. 

Enjoy your cheap fill ups whilst you can Lew.
 

[nick crisp]

im with you here....I was wondering earlier about how much of this is to hurt Russia too as they are now struggling again with the drop in what they can sell their oil and gas for.

Oil prices dropping to half their level of just a few months ago doesn't strike me as a ploy to hurt Putin. Isn't it all to do with the U.S. going nuts for fracking, and so being able to tap in to massive reserves? But it has destroyed Russia's economy for sure by the look of things. But Europe's is in turmoil, and the Chinese economy is on a slow down. So where is it all headed? China was supposed to be the new giant, is it just a blip for them?

[lew600fazer]

We all know we need to stop using fossil fuels. So when the major economies like China , Korea,India, America take a major step in the reduction of there use maybe I will give a foc.
Scotland should set the example in being at the fore front of sending us back into the dark ages and stop all oil and gas production.

Start ploughing the fields using horses again, hand sowing seeds , stick a cork up a cows arse to cut down on green house gases, oh we could bottle that and use it for cooking with? still that would be using a green house gas, so we can't do that then.

The problem with society is we moan about causing the death of the planet, but really none of us really give a foc so long as we can flick a switch and the kettle boils, turn the thermostat up and we get to feel a bit warmer. Hopefully the price of oil will continue to fall and we can still buy cheap petrol so we can go out for a jolly on our Fazers.

Mass unemployment VNA predicts, well man has always found a way out of that dilema. We are well overdue a major world conflict so problem solved. There is no unemployment during a world war. Just think as well if we survive, the building industry will pickup , the DIY shops will be doing a roaring trade.

We will then build a land fit for heros, ah! I thought we did that last time round???or was that ww1.

So all in all with the falling price of oil we are all focced. Let's hope you get a decent summer in the UK at least you will be able to enjoy some of the cheap deals that will be available up in Scotland as the economy will have gone into meltdown.

VNA take a happy pill for foc's sake.

[slappy]

VNA take a happy pill for foc's sake.

Prescriptions are free in Scotland so he won`t even have to pay for it.

[lew600fazer]

[quote author=lew600fazer link=topic=15448.msg177501#msg177501 date=1418802331]

VNA take a happy pill for foc's sake.

Prescriptions are free in Scotland so he won`t even have to pay for it.
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One of the reasons the English should feel pissed off then, same thing in Wales free prescriptions and dental care, ah crap I am going to cause another row.  :pokefun

[fazersharp]

[quote author=noggythenog link=topic=15448.msg177480#msg177480 date=1418758703]

im with you here....I was wondering earlier about how much of this is to hurt Russia too as they are now struggling again with the drop in what they can sell their oil and gas for.

Oil prices dropping to half their level of just a few months ago doesn't strike me as a ploy to hurt Putin. Isn't it all to do with the U.S. going nuts for fracking, and so being able to tap in to massive reserves? But it has destroyed Russia's economy for sure by the look of things. But Europe's is in turmoil, and the Chinese economy is on a slow down. So where is it all headed? China was supposed to be the new giant, is it just a blip for them?
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I think Russsia  is just a by product of what is rearly happening, its an OPEC plan to destroy american fracking production because it is such an expensive way to produce, some producers need oil to be over £100 a barrel to be viable. OPEC has just met and decided not to cut production which would of put the price up which would help the american wells.

[lew600fazer]

If OPEC are doing that , the Americains will be quite happy to cap there wells and buy cheap OPEC oil. At the end of the day the Americains and even the UK will still have their own Gas waiting to be fracked so the ragheads will lose out in the long run, foc em!!only a bunch of foccing sand dancers anyway. Another point seeing as I am on me soap box. If Mosses and his tribe were supposed to have been Gods choosen people why the foc did he not turn right when parted the RED Sea. If he had guess who would have had the oil??? :evil

[fazersharp]

Im sure I remember (dont I )some time ago that the price of petrol sort of went along with the price of a barrel or so it seemed for a time, so when it was £60 a barrel petrol was 60p a L £80 barrel -- £80p a L and so on.

There is no doubt that it gos up instantly but slowly comes down but never as down as it should so when it gos up again its already starting from a higher point.
Also when  it gos up over night why is this when the station has brought the fuel that is sitting in the tank at a lower price anyway, it should go up on their next fill up on the higher price they pay. 

[nick crisp]

[quote author=slappy link=topic=15448.msg177511#msg177511 date=1418811849]



Prescriptions are free in Scotland so he won`t even have to pay for it.

One of the reasons the English should feel pissed off then, same thing in Wales free prescriptions and dental care, ah crap I am going to cause another row.  :pokefun
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I get free prescriptions in England 

[slappy]

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[quote author=slappy link=topic=15448.msg177511#msg177511 date=1418811849]



Prescriptions are free in Scotland so he won`t even have to pay for it.

One of the reasons the English should feel pissed off then, same thing in Wales free prescriptions and dental care, ah crap I am going to cause another row.  :pokefun
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It costs me about £100 a years for inhalers, I can live with that,


I get free prescriptions in England 
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[lew600fazer]

Yea Nick but you are like me, a lot closer to having a chat with the big fella that does the admissions to Fazer Heaven. :pokefun

[nick crisp]

Yea Nick but you are like me, a lot closer to having a chat with the big fella that does the admissions to Fazer Heaven. :pokefun

Nah, I've got a way to go before then. I'm just special  :lol

[noggythenog]

If OPEC are doing that , the Americains will be quite happy to cap there wells and buy cheap OPEC oil. At the end of the day the Americains and even the UK will still have their own Gas waiting to be fracked so the ragheads will lose out in the long run, foc em!!only a bunch of foccing sand dancers anyway. Another point seeing as I am on me soap box. If Mosses and his tribe were supposed to have been Gods choosen people why the foc did he not turn right when parted the RED Sea. If he had guess who would have had the oil??? :evil

err...not the most PC message there Lew :pokefun..............but I do agree with you on the point of the Americans probably still going along with their shale gas plans anyway...I mean the fact that temporarily they can get some cheap deals on traditional supplies is just a brucey bonus isn't it......I cant see how it has anything to do with OPEC doing it on purpose to stop the USA being self sufficient....if anything they can be less frantic about it and research further and develop better technology....we're talking global price drops and the US isn't the globe, just a small part of it. I stand by that it is a big foc u to Russia which has been getting too big for its boots......as much as most folks in western countries see their leaders as a bunch of fools....never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups :b

[lew600fazer]

Admittedly America is not the Globe but the last time it sneezed the rest of the Globe/World caught one hell of a cold.

Not being politically correct what is wrong with the term sand dancers? could be referring to someone from South Shields.
To much of this crap going on Cannot say this, cannot do that, you might offend someone.
If it was not for folk from the west those middle eastern gentlemen would still be living in tents and burning Camel dung for fuel. :evil

[noggythenog]

Admittedly America is not the Globe but the last time it sneezed the rest of the Globe/World caught one hell of a cold.

Not being politically correct what is wrong with the term sand dancers? could be referring to someone from South Shields.
To much of this crap going on Cannot say this, cannot do that, you might offend someone.
If it was not for folk from the west those middle eastern gentlemen would still be living in tents and burning Camel dung for fuel. :evil

Fair play Lew.......they do a good curry in South Shields