Goodbye gen2 Hello s1r

[Janet]

I was seriously tempted when they were announced. It does seem like a lot of bike for the money and the natural progression from the gen 2. However, when I sat on it I found it to be slightly too tall for me to feel confident, particularly for touring. I felt like I was sitting too much on top of it, race replica style, rather than in it, naked bike style. I'm only slightly jealous ...

[pitternator]

Everyone should give it a test ride...its so different from the gen2 its untrue. It has bonkers performance. And that exhaust looks like it would be quiet , but actually it isn't .
Dek is coming on tour ...I aint sure if we shall see much of him in the day !  ..just a tail light heading into the distance !  :lol

[bri h]

Great looking bike.  It's on the list for when I win the lottery.

[slimwilly]

My wife just said i can have one !!!!yey




when she gets more foster kids in :'( ,,,have to rent a bigger house,, this one only has five bed rooms :lol

[Drax]

Went out with my mate the other week on his new S1R. He left me dead in the water on my Gen2.

The torque on thebike is awesome!! So much grunt right from the start.

His bike is also limited to 7K revs until the 1st service on saturday!! - Akra zorst being fitted at same time -it should be absolutely bonkers with full power available. 8)

Probably the best naked on the market for quite a while to come. Hope you paid the extra & got it specced up? Enjoy!!!!

[unfazed]

My wife just said i can have one !!!!yey


when she gets more foster kids in :'( ,,,have to rent a bigger house,, this one only has five bed rooms :lol

Just tell her you will park it in the garage :lol

[DekF]

Thanks for the comments

Janet, it is a bit taller than the gen2, I have the comfort seat fitted & that's about 20mm higher again. It's definitely at least 30mm higher seating position than the gen2. At only 5'6" I'm on tiptoes but have been with all my bikes. I agree with what you mean by being sat on, rather than in, so I've fitted some 30mm risers to compensate. Taller, by that I mean normal sized peeps wouldn't notice.

Drax, the sports version has gold forks & the standard version has black forks. I'm running it in by motomans method & have been upto full rpm a few times & boy does it shift. Out on it Sunday I thought it was going to pull my arms out of the sockets, the upright riding position is partly responsible for that of course.
Apparently, it depends upon the dealer whether they remove the limiter on the pdi, mine is thankfully. Some people mistake the change gear light for the running in limit. It's not & in anycase the shift light can be set by the rider.

Handling wise, it's a joy to throw around, a proper riders bike this one. I have a 30 mile route around where I live that I have some fun on, it has almost zero traffic on the backroads so ideal. The way this bike, at speed, just takes it all in it's stride is amazing & when, like on a particularly fast left, right, left over a crest the ASC ( automatic stability control) warning light flashes you just know you're pushing on. Stunning.

Then, back onto the dual carriageway, push a button to soften the damping, another to put on the heated grips & another to set the cruise control.
Tell me what there isn't to like. 

Meant to add: I do agree that this could be the bike to move from the gen2 to. Well I did. Also bmw are bringing out an adventure bike based upon this engine etc next year, I bet that will be a big seller.

[Falcon 269]

Sounds like an awesome bike, Dek - very pleased for you.

A mate has one and is equally impressed and he's had some quick bikes over the years.  He's no slouch as a rider, either.  His friend also bought one and has just had a repair bill of over £2000 ... seems like ABS, ASC, TLA and so wasn't able to save his wallet completely.

Love the matt blue finish - enjoy!

Mike

[nickodemon]

Nice bike you have there   Did you consider the Aprilia tuono v4r. I utterly love mine   I wanted something different from an in line 4 and it didn't disappoint. I'm sure your bike is an absolute cracker like mine. Our bikes appears to be the way top notch bikes are going these days

[DekF]

Thanks Mike, it has taken something special to get me to part with the fazer, having owned both gen1 & gen2 over the last 10 years.
The s1r has 24 months warranty so I'm surprised your mate has been stung, unless you mean the s1rr.
I'm sure you'd love it as a riding experience but like me be frustrated by the fact that there's not a lot that can be done to it in the home garage apart from the menial tasks like checking tyre pressures etc. All is forgotten once out on the road though :-)

Nick, you have a superb bike, it's certainly sexy, I just hope you don't suffer from the well documented problems that beset some. In tests there's nothing to choose between the 1290, v4 & s1r & they are the cream of the crop :-)

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/featur..._we_trust/

[nickodemon]

You are right regarding the small differences between the bikes.  I have never enjoyed the drive and sound of a bike like my tuono v4. Regarding reliability i have only had condensation inside headlight that was dealt with quickly. On the aprilia forums 99% of people absolutely love the bike with only a few people having issues with waiting for parts etc.. I hope you have an absolute riot on your bm as i have on my Aprilia


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YUt4ur4ixc      Swings and roundabouts :lol

[Falcon 269]

The s1r has 24 months warranty so I'm surprised your mate has been stung, unless you mean the s1rr.

I'd be surprised if the warranty covers throwing it into the kitty litter on a track day, mate ...

[Mattsplat]

Beemer warranty is the best there is.
On my last two, ANY problems that reared their ugly head was dealt with under warranty, not one question asked.
A good example, I had a battery die on me in Portugal. I didn't fancy a 3hr drive to Faro to go to the bike dealers so I went to a Beemer car dealership instead, they ordered the battery and it was delivered to the car dealership at no cost.
Try that with your Honda or Suzuki...

[AyJay]

You are right regarding the small differences between the bikes.  I have never enjoyed the drive and sound of a bike like my tuono v4. Regarding reliability i have only had condensation inside headlight that was dealt with quickly. On the aprilia forums 99% of people absolutely love the bike with only a few people having issues with waiting for parts etc.. I hope you have an absolute riot on your bm as i have on my Aprilia

Have you seen Performance Bikes this month Nick? They put Michael Rutter on a Tuono and even though he only had 6 laps, he damn near matched the Fireblade SP's time around Mallory, and that even included a missed gear or two.


Awesome bike. I must start saving...

[nickodemon]

Thanks for the heads up. I better buy it then

[pitternator]

couple of points-
1. with power comes responsibility !..160 bhp at rear wheel is a huge figure. IMO much of the time it will need tcs to avoid wheelspin .Personally where do ya draw the line ? ..is 170 bhp better ???..would that make 160 bhp bikes " crap" ?

2. yes bmw warranty is good, but after my awful 2 yrs with the GS, it bloody needs to be. I have met so many people with beemers  especially the LC GS and K1600GTs who have had dreadful problems. Now then, what do you do when the bmw warranty runs out ? Aftermarket ones are not as comprehensive, but the problems wont necessarily go away.I hope the 4 cylinder bikes are better , as they are based on the 05 gixxer ...maybe so. But I have been put off bmw sad to say. Are they just trying too hard with so many new bikes .They never offered me extra warranty on my bike, after all my complaints and warranty claims  about vibey engine and failing electrics...maybe they knew something I didn't ! I have to say I have never had so many issues with any other new bike I have owned, and that is a fair few...

I was very impressed with the chassis and kit on the S1000R , but I just felt it too intense for my road riding these days...never thought I would ever say that ! Even on lowest power mode it felt fast .All other traffic seemed to be in slow motion ! It is a bike for adrenaline junkies, and those with  a lot of self control !..I wonder how long rear tyres will last !  :eek..with my two other super nakeds I owned it was only 1500 miles on sport rubber , this bike has 30 bhp more...
However I am keen to see just what the " adventure bike" will be. It kinda rubs up against the whole GS thing , so maybe it will be more a flat barred faired sportsbike alternative ??..they also are bringing out a R1200ST again so it seems...or are folk getting confused over new models ?

I also wonder just how the other manufacturers will react to BMW dominating the power end of the market ?

[chaparral02]

I also wonder just how the other manufacturers will react to BMW dominating the power end of the market ?

And the new BMW s1000r is also priced very cheap.....

Roughly exactly the same price as a brandnew FZ1 fazer

[pitternator]

yes, but that is the " base" model.
Almost nobody buys base models with bmw....so best to compare the £11300 model. Its still not the most expensive, comparing like with like though.

I traded my Gs for  a 14 plate speed triple. Its fast enough for me, and has abs which is all the electronics I want.I wanted a characterful engine / feel over sheer bhp. Its why I wouldn't be interested in a busa or ZZR14.......I got a good deal, so its saved me almost £3k over buying a S1000R. You just have to decide how much power you want / need. Even running the speedy in, with a 7k max limit, is still 120mph...almost the GS 's top speed....for this type of bike 140 mph is plenty...IMHO.

Its an easier choice for me since I still have my full monty gen1, which is still way quicker than I ever need. So I can pick what I want in my second bike. But I can see why so many are buying the S1000R....just as so many bought the R1, Blade, gixxer 1000, S1000RR at their launches....who knows what I will look at next ?....rocket 3 ??.... :lol