So who would you ban from using the NHS?

[mtread]

Beyond patch up and stabilize no, same rules as I have when I go abroad.

So, no pain medication, no resetting of fractures, no blood transfusion? Nothing expensive then. Just tape over the holes and send you home?
I think you get a bit more than that in the EU, so why shouldn't we give the same back ?

[slimwilly]

Scottish people,not permanently , just for a while to see how much can be saved.

[BBROWN1664]

Non-UK taxpayers would be the first place to start followed by people who don't but could work.

I would also reclassify self inflicted disabled people (fat foccers who ate themselves there) as non-disabled and remove all their perks like motability cars.

Smokers deserve private rooms for the amount they put into the NHS funds through taxation as do drinkers and motorists.

[Streetbudgie]

Beyond patch up and stabilize no, same rules as I have when I go abroad.

So, no pain medication, no resetting of fractures, no blood transfusion? Nothing expensive then. Just tape over the holes and send you home?
I think you get a bit more than that in the EU, so why shouldn't we give the same back ?

That is patch up and stabilize  :rolleyes

[Streetbudgie]

Smokers deserve private rooms for the amount they put into the NHS funds through taxation as do drinkers and motorists.

Wish that were true, sadly tax from fags and booze does not find its way into the NHS exclusively.

If that were true any tax on fatty foods should be included as well, again it would only end up further bolstering the ridiculous amounts this country gives away every day.

[noggythenog]

Scottish people,not permanently , just for a while to see how much can be saved.

:lol


No skin off our nose


We'll create our own health centres,every illness & disability catered for under one roof


We shall call them..........bargain booze!!! :b

[Tiberius Onklevaart]

And it will sell only buckfast

[noggythenog]

And it will sell only buckfast

Yep, what'll it be, well ive got a bit o arthiritis, okey dokey you need some more tonic, come back for a check up after youv bashed yur mates head in with the bottle!!! :lol



Strugglin to find the bucky down in wales now, all the  bargain booze closed in my area.


I can remember buying a box of it via Tesco online a while back but it was a dodgy move.

[mtread]

That is patch up and stabilize

Oh, you mean full NHS treatment then  :rolleyes

[Dave48]

The NHS came into being the same year I was born & I ,like many others have reason to be very grateful for its existence.
Now call me an old fart if you like but in my early years we were taught self-reliance, didnt sit around eating American size portions of junk food,walked to school,cycled,played sport & games-in other words used exercise to develop our bodies & sense of self-worth.
My sons were born in the late 70s/early 80s & I encouraged them along similar lines-one is now super-fit & the other has cycled all his life with no desire to drive a cage. They ,in turn, are encouraging their children to do the things that will give them good health in the years to come.
Somewhere along the line things have gone horribly wrong and "they" put dire programs on TV about, for example, super-obese people who cant leave their bedrooms or fit in normal size ambulances but continue to be fed supersize portions by their carers. Why are so many people unwilling to take responsibility for themselves? Why do they expect to abuse their bodies to the extent that they require enormous amounts of NHS time & resources?
Now as I & my generation approach old age we are being told WE are a drain on funds-remember we are the generation that held jobs,paid taxes & NI & generally contributed to the exchequer in taxed spending.
The nation will have to decide what its priorities are but unless you are willing to invest in education(of a relevant type) we shall continue to become dumbed down Britain. Ive read some topics/threads on this forum about some interesting subjects but I despair of  this country & the people who try to run it! Perhaps we should realise  that its time to get people to be self-reliant & chuck out all this nonsense about expecting the state(you & me) to pick up the tab for feckless & irresponsible behaviour? Don't get me started on foreign aid, poking our nose into Uncle Sams "little" wars around the globe. Lets start putting our own house in order first :eek

[richfzs]

You speak sense, Mr dave48. I was born 1970, and think pretty much the same way as you, as do most of my friends (who are mostly older than me). I think (and fear) though, that it's people born in the 5 years or so after me, where the rot set in. There are obviously exceptions to that, I can think of 1 or 2 of the young uns on here who have their head screwed on, and you've obviously done a good job with your kids :thumbup

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[red98]

The NHS came into being the same year I was born & I ,like many others have reason to be very grateful for its existence.
Now call me an old fart if you like but in my early years we were taught self-reliance, didnt sit around eating American size portions of junk food,walked to school,cycled,played sport & games-in other words used exercise to develop our bodies & sense of self-worth.
My sons were born in the late 70s/early 80s & I encouraged them along similar lines-one is now super-fit & the other has cycled all his life with no desire to drive a cage. They ,in turn, are encouraging their children to do the things that will give them good health in the years to come.
Somewhere along the line things have gone horribly wrong and "they" put dire programs on TV about, for example, super-obese people who cant leave their bedrooms or fit in normal size ambulances but continue to be fed supersize portions by their carers. Why are so many people unwilling to take responsibility for themselves? Why do they expect to abuse their bodies to the extent that they require enormous amounts of NHS time & resources?
Now as I & my generation approach old age we are being told WE are a drain on funds-remember we are the generation that held jobs,paid taxes & NI & generally contributed to the exchequer in taxed spending.
The nation will have to decide what its priorities are but unless you are willing to invest in education(of a relevant type) we shall continue to become dumbed down Britain. Ive read some topics/threads on this forum about some interesting subjects but I despair of  this country & the people who try to run it! Perhaps we should realise  that its time to get people to be self-reliant & chuck out all this nonsense about expecting the state(you & me) to pick up the tab for feckless & irresponsible behaviour? Don't get me started on foreign aid, poking our nose into Uncle Sams "little" wars around the globe. Lets start putting our own house in order first :eek

well said dave.....it does worry me what the future holds for my kids and grand kids....yes i am really that old 

[DILLIGAFF]

Well if we made health insurance compulsory for foreign tourists we could soon rack up some nice fat claims and show a profit.


EG.. friend of mine holidays in Canada every year. Last year he fainted one morning, most probably due to a kingsize hangover.
When he came to he was in hospital with a shiny new pacemaker fitted???????????????


Never had any heart problems before or since but his insurance provider is probably around $30,000 poorer.


Meanwhile back in the UK, I have to go in for a colonoscopy on Friday. Preparation for this involves the dreaded PICOLAX purgative.
Last time they sent me two sachets in the post.
Now, due to cutbacks, I have to go to a chemist and buy these from my own pocket.
At present, if I was a tourist they would doubtless be provided free of charge.


Seems to me the NHS is clawing back pennies from people who have paid in all their lives and throwing literally hundreds of thousands at people who have not.

[Streetbudgie]

That is patch up and stabilize

Oh, you mean full NHS treatment then  :rolleyes

No I mean patch up and stabilize, no treatment beyond that, for example, you hire a scooter on holiday and fall off wearing flip flops and shorts.

You are treated in hospital for abrasions and a broken wrist, once set and bandaged you are sent on your way to follow this up with your GP who will refer you to your local hospital outside the UK where they will carry on your treatment, with what appropriate drugs, physio etc you need.

Quite simple really, works the same for UK citizens abroad from the UK if you do not have travel insurance, except you would as everyone has it, apart from those who visit the UK looking for a freebie.

[BBROWN1664]

Wish that were true, sadly tax from fags and booze does not find its way into the NHS exclusively.

True but if it were not for the tax they pay, the NHS would have less money or everyone else would have to pay more tax.

[dBfazer600]

Meanwhile back in the UK, I have to go in for a colonoscopy on Friday. Preparation for this involves the dreaded PICOLAX purgative.
Last time they sent me two sachets in the post.
Now, due to cutbacks, I have to go to a chemist and buy these from my own pocket.
At present, if I was a tourist they would doubtless be provided free of charge.


Seems to me the NHS is clawing back pennies from people who have paid in all their lives and throwing literally hundreds of thousands at people who have not.

Mate this is the way forward as I would rather wipe my ass ring with chillies than go through that again. Hope all is ok

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Daz

[Tmation]

Sports men and women, they injure themselves all the time, stop that nonsense. Horse riders, cyclists in Lycra, wear proper protective gear for foc sake, the list is endless.


In fact the NHS should only that people who never get sick or injure themselves, that would save loads.


The whole point of the NHS is that treatment is free at the point of contact and long should it remain so.


I have an EHIC card for travelling in Europe (free first aid and patch up) then travel insurance to cover the rest.

[tomby1]

Motorcyclists.

[goldfazer]

'Sports men and women, they injure themselves all the time, stop that nonsense. '

Absolutely. make 'em sit in front of telly all day getting fat, getting diabetes and dodgy tickers

[VNA]

Scottish people,not permanently , just for a while to see how much can be saved.

Well the NHS in Scotland is a devolved matter.  In England it's currently being privatised bit by bit, but in Scotland the bulk of it is still firmly in public hands.  So England could in the long run find the NHS has all but disappeared.  I guess we can probably expand our NHS to incorporate pay up front services for English folks, it's gonna be chaeper and better than the private crap your gonna end up with doon sooth and a nice wee earner for us up here!

But this thread is just another example of where the Tory Party would like to push you all.  It's all about envy, oooo look what they are getting, why does so and so get that for nothing and I've gotta pay for it.  Why should public service workers get a good pension when it's my tax that pays for it and I've gotta find my own scheme, and so forth.

It's magic, cos while our millionaire Eton educated in orbit around the moon cabinet get us all fighting each other over a few quid, them and their buddies, the bankers, the fatcats, the shareholders are all screwing you and running off with billions of your cash, and they ain't even paying any foccing tax on it.

This is just more Tory bait and plenty of you are dumb enougth to bite on it.