hpi check disaster.

[darrsi]

I presume you need to declare that to insurance people as well, i wouldn't be surprised if they add a bit on using the Cat C as leverage.

[robby boy]

If I read this right you have bought a 1998 bike that was damaged in 1999, I would be looking at the bikes mileage now and how many owners it has had.


My way of looking at it is if the bike was damaged when it was fairly new most of the miles on the clock have been done since the crash, if it has only had a few owners and a lot of miles I would not worry too much about it, hopefully that makes sense.


I would keep it for a while and see how it turns out, remember there are lots of bikes out there that are cat c and there are lots of bikes out there that have been damaged and repaired by their owners without the insurance and hpi companies knowing about it therefore it will not show on hpi check.

[dBfazer600]

Its got an MOT so its been looked over and it was safe on the day of inspection. Change the rear tyre and leave the rest of the work until you have taken it out. Then deside what you are going to use the bike for. After this either keep it or sell it on. There is no need to disclose to potential buyers of its past as they should do the checks themself.

Daz

[jonesthesteam]

I presume you need to declare that to insurance people as well, i wouldn't be surprised if they add a bit on using the Cat C as leverage.

Not sure whether things have changed lately but when I insured my cat c a few years back I had no issues, and got a good price from a mainstream insurer, but....as the bike has already been paid out on I'm not sure if that may have a bearing on any future claim?


PS : good advice about keeping it for a while if it is all okay, I rode mine for a year with no issues at all and only sold it to buy a Fazer!


Jonesthesteam

[noggythenog]

[quote author=coupcoup link=topic=7009.msg66462#msg66462 date=1364726874]
thanks guys.. some good advice and positive vibes there thanks.  I was seriously pissed off earlier. now i'm only mildly pissed off. :rolleyes 


I might have no choice but to keep it if i can't sell it for close to what i paid.  I've only ridden it round the block (4 miles with some twisties and some straights) a couple of times but it seemed to ride well ( apart from the flattened back tyre affecting the turn in a little (at least i hope it is that)).  The frame is in good nick with no visible dents or marks. there is no play in the bearings anywhere.  I dunno.  maybe i should just get it checked over and keep it. put a few thousand miles on it so i can sell it on with confidence...

Where would i find out what the damage was?

All is not lost.

I have only one bit of advice.....calm down and don't make any rash decisions.


All the facts that you have now is that you were lied too....nothing else. I'm sure you were lied too before, and you got over it?


You have no concrete evidence or professional advice that the bike is dangerous to ride yet....so why throw all your energy into believing that your bike is goosed???


Is it possible....just a little bit possible.... that your bike at the moment has just an equal opportunity that it is repaired to a safe and very ridable standard as if it were not crashed at all???...... and that it could bring great joy to your life???


Actually, is it possible that it might even be better than the pre-crashed state because some of the very old parts could have been replaced with longer lasting newer parts....ever think about that possibility??


At the moment what i'm saying is calm down and don't be obsessing that the glass is more than half empty, because that leads to making just as rash decisions like the one you made first day in buying it. Now is your opportunity to check it out and make an informed and rational decision. It might just work out that the glass is more than half full.
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Wise words indeed packie 8)


I'd have a tendency to act like coupcoup & be totally devastated & it's words like these that make us types put things back into perspective.


It got me thinking about how many ships sail around the coast of britain that have been holed & dented,or fire damaged,sometimes close to sinking yet most are repaired & certified as fit for purpose,many carrying dangerous cargos & lots of crew,they meet the safety criteria therefore no problem.


Most likely coupcoup's bike does too 8)

[stevierst]

My old R1 was a write off, and I ride it like a demon for 7 years, my tiger 1050 was a cat c, my last fazer 6 was a cat c, and my current fazer 6 was a cat d.

I've never had a problem with any of them with either insurance/ mechanical/mot, so don't worry about it. If it rides well, then you've got a bike that rides well but you know a bit of its history.

There are literally hundreds of bikes out there that have been down the road and badly damaged, then repaired without recording it. Some on here probably own and enjoy one of these bikes.

Don't be hasty to break or sell it, see it as a blank canvas and make it your own!

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[stevierst]

Bloody Tapatalk double post :rolleyes

[Dead Eye]

The point about other bikes riding around without any documented history is a good point. If I manage to restore my bike, no one would be any the wiser if I wasn't to inform them about the fire. The insurance company doesn't know anything and as far as the DVLA is concerned, its just off the road at the moment...

[ChristoT]

I never did do an HPI on mine, but due to various things, I suspect mine had a Cat C worthy crash in its lifetime...

It rides fine, handles fine, and it a custom end can short of perfect. End of the line, no matter its past history, it's yours now. I have an annoying habit of buying abused bikes, and losing a fortune of each, but then again. My current Fazer now has a caring owner (despite the occasional thrash), and is perfect for me. I know it's gutting when you find flaws in your perfect machine, but sadly, flaws (things going wrong) are inevitable. It's how you live with them.

I know I'm not saying anything new, but look at it this way: Your bike had a prang 14 YEARS ago, has been on the road since (and presumably relatively extensively to boot), and is now owned by someone who will take care of it. I personally would advise the following: Forget the HPI, and ride it for 3 months. When those 3 months are up, if you still feel you want to sell it, then do. Just don't be in a hurry to cut your nose off to spite your face.

[coupcoup]

Well,  I called the dealer who had previously offered me a 2000 plate fazer with 6000 miles on it the day after i'd bought mine and told him the craic.  He looked in his wee book and said he'd give me £100 less than I paid for it if I wanted to trade it in for his one.  Now I know that it's going to cost me a few quid to exchange but I'm weighing it up.  The  dealers bike has double bubble screen, scorpion end can ( although with a dent) fender extender, smoked indicators and has 2 owners and low miles.  Last owner had it restricted and just traded in for an r6.  THe tyres are better it has 1 years MOT , will be serviced and have a parts and labour warranty.  If I choose to keep mine I'll be buying tyres fitted, servicing it thoroughly as it has done 300 miles in 3 years as per my previous thread and in the end the money will balance itself out. 


In a way I'm tempted to spend on the one I have just to teach my self a lesson!!  but then.... life is too short no?  I could buy a newer bike with fewer miles that looks better and hasn't been crashed which needs nothing for the next year and is ready to ride.....hmmmm

[Exupnut]

I think u answered urself in that post. 100 quid mistake sounds much better to me. Light at the end of tunnel so to speek. SWOP IT MATE!!


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[darrsi]

No brainer, swap the bike, it's obviously a big issue to you so just do it and move on.......

[packie]

Well now, that is a most acceptable proposition. For £100 you will have peace of mind. And as you said, the money balances itself out in the long run....go for it!!

Even if you bought a new can for about £150 to replace the dented Scorpion one, that would still balance itself out too in the long run if you were selling on the bike. If you sell on the bike, I think that you are the kind of chap that would tell the next owner the history of the bike, and the other people might a HPI on the bike anyway, so you will have to sell the bike well below what you paid for it.

[jonesthesteam]

Go for it and snap his hand off, from my experience you will never be completely happy with yours knowing its history


Jonesthesteam