11-01-12, 02:52 PM
These people also ride thousands of miles with no issues... who needs engineers?
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11-01-12, 02:52 PM
These people also ride thousands of miles with no issues... who needs engineers?
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11-01-12, 02:55 PM
(11-01-12, 02:28 PM)Motorbreath link Wrote: I do not see the point of having 10mm, also the lean angle you need to reach them will be crazy, no way the bike can lean so much, you will be scratching the frame first... better put the proper rim.gawd sakes. The whole point is that you have tyre left, no point getting to the edges all the time. You have a lot to learn, I assume you are young? Please tell me you are young? :lol To achieve clearance you can lift the back and front, add rearsets, lift the pipe and link pipe but what you do want is NOT to run off the edge of the tyre, that's why racers hang off :eek
11-01-12, 02:58 PM
(11-01-12, 02:52 PM)Motorbreath link Wrote: These people also ride thousands of miles with no issues... who needs engineers?I'm very aware of the iron butters but their riding is somewhat different to what you are trying to achieve. Where there is a will there is a way. I assume ALL of your bike is the way Yamaha intended? As this is how it was designed it must be the only SAFE and PROPER way? More than one way to skin a cat. I wish you luck in your quest ![]()
11-01-12, 03:34 PM
As I told you I did change the front wheel and I am going to change the rear tyre size, so my bike is not like Yamaha intended. But tyre brands say it is fine. Also do motorcycle mechanics books, FG Gubellini suspension, Hel brake lines, and so on. Which engineer told you the 120-3" is right?
11-01-12, 03:41 PM
(11-01-12, 03:34 PM)Motorbreath link Wrote: As I told you I did change the front wheel and I am going to change the rear tyre size, so my bike is not like Yamaha intended. But tyre brands say it is fine. Also do motorcycle mechanics books, FG Gubellini suspension, Hel brake lines, and so on. Which engineer told you the 120-3" is right?that'll be me, I'm an engineer. Not ideal maybe but better than a 110 for my riding. The point I was nearly making is why are you so adamant this is not good when you are changing many other things that Yamaha will tell you isn't good. They will tell you ONLY use genuine parts for their bikes, you aren't nor am I, because other stuff works. Honda would have a fit if they read the list of mods on my Bird. :lol
11-01-12, 04:01 PM
All right. Lets stop it. I think my English is not good enough yet...
11-01-12, 04:04 PM
(10-01-12, 05:11 PM)Lumpy link Wrote: [quote author=thom_1991 link=topic=1082.msg9481#msg9481 date=1326207662] 10mm different, 5mm per side. 4,33" as opposed to 4,72" nominally. Fits quite happily on there and means that you still have tread when the rear runs out, I ride on the front so it's good for me. I expect fitting the occasional 190 on the rear of my other bike instead of the 180 is dodgy too :rollin The profile is slightly pulled but so what, not excessive, not dangerous, helps handling, more rubber on road too. Get a grip for pitys sake. I suppose my Renthalls, bar end mirrors, fazer 1000 rear caliper, disc of a thundercat, screen bolts, perch bolts and so on aren't good as Yamaha didn't fit them, goodness knows about the blue flame and stainless downpipes, and oh god the main stand isn't fitted and the rear is jacked up too. It's a hanging for sure :evil [/quote] Hang on i'm not saying if you modify your bike you'll be killed to death horribly or anything just saying the profiles not whats intended. I used a 140 instead of 130 rear on my cb500 because it's all sticky and cheap used Bt090's come in. Oh and my Nitron shock, zx6rm/c, K tech fork springs, goldspots aren't what Yamaha put on, neither are the clip on's or Jap rearsets that are on the way....
12-01-12, 10:50 AM
(11-01-12, 11:59 PM)thom_1991 link Wrote: Hang on i'm not saying if you modify your bike you'll be killed to death horribly or anything just saying the profiles not whats intended. I used a 140 instead of 130 rear on my cb500 because it's all sticky and cheap used Bt090's come in. Oh and my Nitron shock, zx6rm/c, K tech fork springs, goldspots aren't what Yamaha put on, neither are the clip on's or Jap rearsets that are on the way....Oh I know that but the implication is you can pick and choose which parts you feel are for the better and which parts for the worse and while in the best of intentions, poor advice is worse than no advice at the end of the day.
12-01-12, 09:31 PM
It's not poor advice it's a statement of fact. 120 tyre on a 110 rim changes it's profile.
12-01-12, 11:45 PM
(12-01-12, 09:31 PM)thom_1991 link Wrote: It's not poor advice it's a statement of fact. 120 tyre on a 110 rim changes it's profile.yes it does a little, so what? It's not dangerous. Any different size tyre that standard will pull or push the profile a little depending on the make of tyre too. The implication from some is that it's dangerous to fit the 120 on the standard rim and it just is not.
13-01-12, 12:24 AM
Lumpy i think your thinking is way out riders do not hang off their bikes to save tyres never never ever....
13-01-12, 12:50 AM
wow this is getting deep so some say you can and some say not :eek
13-01-12, 01:08 AM
13-01-12, 07:35 AM
An experienced guy I trust encouraged me to fit 120 tyre up front. They are a lot easier to find in Serbia. I didn't listen to him. Couldn't forgive myself if anything happened in a corner with such a tyre. That thundercat 400 fron whole wheel exchange looks tempting though!
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13-01-12, 01:19 PM
(13-01-12, 12:24 AM)glynblue2 link Wrote: Lumpy i think your thinking is way out riders do not hang off their bikes to save tyres never never ever....and nor did I say or infer that. Not a politician are you? Racers hang off so more of the tyre is on the road / track and keeping the bike more upright due to the slip angles and lateral forces involved etc. , they don't ride to the edges if they can help it. One of the replies earlier stated that having 10mm of rubber left is pointless, hence the analogy. Hope this clears thing up on that one.
21-01-12, 07:01 PM
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120/70 front & 180/55 back for 2,5 years with no problems.
VERY steady in highway with 160-180 km but a little slow for turning (i dont push it to the edge). I dont know the difference with 110 front - 160 back because i bought the bike with these tyres. Sorry for my bad english
22-01-12, 07:11 PM
Quote:Sorry for my bad englishnothing wrong with your English and much more intelligent than most of the replies.
22-01-12, 11:09 PM
(22-01-12, 07:11 PM)Lumpy link Wrote:[quote author=TERMINATOR]nothing wrong with your English and much more intelligent than most of the replies. [/quote] 2.5 years with the same tyres he got the bike?! He must be riding to the edge, really feeling it! ![]()
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23-01-12, 09:11 AM
(22-01-12, 11:09 PM)Slaninar link Wrote:[quote author=Lumpy link=topic=1082.msg10591#msg10591 date=1327255889]nothing wrong with your English and much more intelligent than most of the replies. [/quote] 2.5 years with the same tyres he got the bike?! He must be riding to the edge, really feeling it! ![]() [/quote]I thought he meant the same configuaration not the same tyres, there again, my tyres on the Bird seem to last rather a long time under that bike cover :rollin |
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