BREXIT

[Grahamm]

I wish to announce......... that I will not be standing as a candidate for leader of the Conservative Party.

I'm not standing and neither is my wife!

[YamFazFan]

By the way, remind us how many people signed the "Leave" petition.

As already indicated I've no confidence in petitions, only official elections :thumbup

[YamFazFan]

[quote author=YamFazFan link=topic=24678.msg298392#msg298392 date=1559043220]

I'll stick to the only count that truly matters thanks Grahamm. The election system where only real, registered and eligible voters participate

Yeah, about that... UK government may face court action after EU citizens denied vote

If there has been an injustice regarding voter  eligibility then I sincerely hope that it's corrected. I guess we'll just have to wait and see .


It doesn't shake my faith in the democratic system though Grahamm. Does it you?.


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[YamFazFan]

Err, WTF? The Green Party has been in favour of Remain from the start!!

Very true of the party, but not all of their voters. As mentioned previously, 25% voted 'Leave' in the 2016 EU referendum.

[fazersharp]

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[quote author=YamFazFan link=topic=24678.msg298392#msg298392 date=1559043220]

I'll stick to the only count that truly matters thanks Grahamm. The election system where only real, registered and eligible voters participate

Yeah, about that... UK government may face court action after EU citizens denied vote

If there has been an injustice regarding voter  eligibility then I sincerely hope that it's corrected. I guess we'll just have to wait and see .
It doesn't shake my faith in the democratic system though Grahamm. Does it you?.

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[/quote]I heard this story this morning on the radio and it was a Polish caller and I understood that it was EU nationals wanting to vote for parties in their own country but were just wanting to do it from this one. The caller went on to explain that they made a few calls to Poland and got it all sorted.

[VNA]

Can I just post this again;
Harley Davidson looking for a European manufactuering base.
https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2019...ld-europe/

But of course like a great many companies one country they will not be considering right now is the UK.
BREXIT will destroy manufactering in the UK.

Why are people so determined to wreck our economy.  Why are so many ordinary people in England and Wales desperate to be poorer?

[Frosties]

I respect everybody's views. I just don't happen to agree with them. And I can do that without actually calling them pricks :lol
Carlisle - I smell no biscuits either. Mind you in a Premier Inn all I can smell is harpic


So, the country is split (more or less) in half between hard Brexit and hard Remain. How do we get out of this mess?

Implying that someone is a prick on a face to face basis is still grounds for a fucking slap in my book - but you'd avoid that wouldn't you....

[mtread]

Implying that someone is a prick on a face to face basis is still grounds for a fucking slap in my book - but you'd avoid that wouldn't you....

You clearly don't understand. I don't call anybody a prick, unless I know them very well 

[mtread]

I heard this story this morning on the radio and it was a Polish caller and I understood that it was EU nationals wanting to vote for parties in their own country but were just wanting to do it from this one. The caller went on to explain that they made a few calls to Poland and got it all sorted.

I think you're right, it was for voting in their own country, but not sure they all could get it resolved with 'a few calls'. What's clear was that there was a cock up due to the short notice.

[YamFazFan]

Are you heading up to Scotland mtread?.

[fazersharp]

I heard this story this morning on the radio and it was a Polish caller and I understood that it was EU nationals wanting to vote for parties in their own country but were just wanting to do it from this one. The caller went on to explain that they made a few calls to Poland and got it all sorted.

I think you're right, it was for voting in their own country, but not sure they all could get it resolved with 'a few calls'. What's clear was that there was a cock up due to the short notice.

it is being portrayed that they are being prevented to vote for one of the remain parties when they were not even trying to vote for any uk party.

[Grahamm]

Very true of the party, but not all of their voters. As mentioned previously, 25% voted 'Leave' in the 2016 EU referendum.

So what? How someone voted previously doesn't mean that they will vote the same way next time (unless you're a rabid "my Party right or wrong" supporter).

[nick crisp]

Can I just post this again;
Harley Davidson looking for a European manufactuering base.
https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2019...ld-europe/

But of course like a great many companies one country they will not be considering right now is the UK.

Thank foc for that  :lol

[steve 10562cc]

I'm with you there Hedgetrimmer over priced crap

[YamFazFan]

[quote author=YamFazFan link=topic=24678.msg298449#msg298449 date=1559080267]
Very true of the party, but not all of their voters. As mentioned previously, 25% voted 'Leave' in the 2016 EU referendum.

So what? How someone voted previously doesn't mean that they will vote the same way next time (unless you're a rabid "my Party right or wrong" supporter).
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And you don't know that they have changed their minds either.


However when you were adding up the various parties EU Parliament election votes into Remain V Leave totals the other day, you'd put every single Green voter into 'Remain' :rolleyes

Oh and apparently around 30% of Liberal Democrat supporters voted Leave in 2016, but you've put 100% of them in your 'Remain' tally too :\

[VNA]

Quote from: VNA on 28 May 2019, 11:12:02 PM

    Can I just post this again;
    Harley Davidson looking for a European manufactuering base.
    https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2019...ld-europe/

    But of course like a great many companies one country they will not be considering right now is the UK.

Thank foc for that  :lol

I'm with you there Hedgetrimmer over priced crap

I agree.  I have no interest in Harley Davidsons.  But I would quite happily see them manufactured here for the UK and Euro market. 



You are talking quality well paid jobs.


But the reality is Harley Davidson will not consider the UK as a manufacturing base for even a nono second. 



Nissan has cancelled the UK production of the X-Trail in the UK.  Honda is moving out lock, stop and barrel.  Schaeffler are moving out.  Michelin are moving out.  There is now a growing list of companies moving part or all of their production out of the UK.


The priority for these manufactures is to access the EU single market.  Even your darling economist Professor Minford, in his frankly flawed positive analysis of a NO DEAL BREXIT, admits that UK manufacturing will be all but wiped out.


I am, and continue to be, at a complete and total loss as to why any ordinary person in the UK would wish the UK to leave the EU and the single market.


We will become poorer outside the EU.

[fazersharp]

[quote author=Grahamm link=topic=24678.msg298468#msg298468 date=1559126086]
[quote author=YamFazFan link=topic=24678.msg298449#msg298449 date=1559080267]
Very true of the party, but not all of their voters. As mentioned previously, 25% voted 'Leave' in the 2016 EU referendum.

So what? How someone voted previously doesn't mean that they will vote the same way next time (unless you're a rabid "my Party right or wrong" supporter).
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And you don't know that they have changed their minds either.


However when you were adding up the various parties EU Parliament election votes into Remain V Leave totals the other day, you'd put every single Green voter into 'Remain' :rolleyes

Oh and apparently around 30% of Liberal Democrat supporters voted Leave in 2016, but you've put 100% of them in your 'Remain' tally too :\

[/quote]Also there is another 3.6 million votes that you can remove from the remain tally.

[nick crisp]

We will become poorer outside the EU.

Never mind, it'll be a good bit of character building for you  :lol

[mtread]

Are you heading up to Scotland mtread?.

Well, we're not all Rob Roys 
In other news, I see the Tory leadership fight has kicked off :lurk They're all stabbing each other in the back?
Who's your Least Worst candidate? Mine's Jeremy Hunt. He's slightly less obnoxious than most of the others

[fazersharp]

Well

• Rory Stewart looks like an old shoe.
  
• Matt Hancocks face looks like he is lying all the time.
  
• Sajid Javid has such a small face for his head there's room for an extra one above it.
  
• Esther Mcvey's voice is like some one trying to hold back vomit whilst talking.
  
• Andrea Leadsom looks like a school headmistress.
  
• James Cleaverly - well his problem is no one knows what he looks like.
  
• Kit Malthouse sounds like a micro brewery.
  
• Dominic Raab has a smarmy face and he NEVER blinks - you watch him.
  
• Boris Johnson wants it too much.
  
• Michael Gove has a face made out of rubber.
  
• Jeremy Hunt looks the most like a prime minister.