Today's "What Gets My Goat" - NO POLITICS!

[mtread]

English people vote Tory and Scots who don’t vote Tory get a Tory government.

O no we didn't! London is Labour, so is Manchester, Liverpool etc. It depends on how you draw the borders and decide majorities. That bloke who owns Sealand has got the right idea. Draw a line around the house and declare yourself independent. I'd be the majority and in charge, but the wife won't let me 

[darrsi]

Which is exactly why i've never voted.
I refuse to vote for the best of a bad bunch just for the sake of voting for someone, and to this day i can't name a single politician let alone an actual party that i've ever had any confidence in or even liked. As the years go by i don't think such a party can or ever will exist.
They lie their way in with their bullshit campaigns, then just do whatever they fancy once the foot is in the door........................

Well I think of myself as a socialist and a trade unionist.
But what I find today is the youngsters at work (and some of the older uns) moan about the Union.  They say "What has the union ever done for us?"
My answer to them, and in a roundabout way to you, is what have you done for the Union?

At the end of the day, it's a democracy, and love it or loath it, the people will get what they deserve.

I'm not here to do anything for any union?
What i have done though is put money into the country by getting a job 2 weeks after leaving school and never being out of work since.
As far as my interest can stretch on this subject, it would appear that Labour is the immigrants friend, and Tories are the rich mans friend.
I'm neither.

[Robbie8666]

I'm not here to do anything for any union?
What i have done though is put money into the country by getting a job 2 weeks after leaving school and never being out of work since.
As far as my interest can stretch on this subject, it would appear that Labour is the immigrants friend, and Tories are the rich mans friend.
I'm neither.

totally agree with you Darrsi, since 1982 I have had 6 months unemployed but only claimed dole for 3 months
when I say I don't do politics people ask why and I say who I vote for is my business and don't impose my views on anyone else!

[steve 10562cc]

I'm not here to do anything for any union?
What i have done though is put money into the country by getting a job 2 weeks after leaving school and never being out of work since.
As far as my interest can stretch on this subject, it would appear that Labour is the immigrants friend, and Tories are the rich mans friend.
I'm neither.



+ 1 darrsi.
  I left school at 15 in 1971 left on the Friday started as apprentice brickie the following Monday and never been unemployed since. Retired at 55 after sorting own pension out so claim nothing from the state and pay tax on the pension I have.  I wont get my state pension till 2020

[YamFazFan]

At the end of the day, it's a democracy

Try telling that to some of the hardline Remoaners and anti-Trump virtue signallers and see how far you get.

[mtread]

What makes you think anti-trump is a minority in this country? And anyway, any vote is only valid on the day it is held. It is invalid the following day as people change their minds.

[Grahamm]

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At the end of the day, it's a democracy

Try telling that to some of the hardline Remoaners and anti-Trump virtue signallers and see how far you get.
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Try telling that to the Brexiteers whose idea of "democracy" is "We won, you lost, so shut up, we can do whatever we want now..."

And, of course, whose cause is being lead by Boris Johnson and Jacob Rees-Mogg!!!

[mtread]

Boris has only one cause..... Boris.

[mtread]

And anyway, the question on the paper was to 'leave the European Union', not 'leave the Single Market and the Customs Union'. It's some politicians who have taken that decision. That's not democracy 

[Freck]

Hang on a minute, I thought this was Today's 'What gets my goat' not Question Time  :rolleyes

[YamFazFan]

What makes you think anti-trump is a minority in this country? And anyway, any vote is only valid on the day it is held. It is invalid the following day as people change their minds.

And I'm sure that's what the Remainers would have said if they'd won? lol.

Nothing wrong with being anti Trump/Brexit/ whatever. They're as entitled to their views as anyone.

It's all these underhand attempts to try to reverse democratic decisions that gets my goat.

I don't like Corbyn, but if he won a free and fair election I would defend his right to travel freely, be heard and represent the office of Prime Minister.

I wouldn't start chucking all my toys out of the pram just because it didn't go my way.

[steve 10562cc]

I don't remember all this wining from those that voted against joining the common market back in the 1970s. What we are in now was not what the majority voted for then, certainly not to be ruled by a dictatorship in Europe.

[mtread]

At least you'd get an opportunity to vote on Corbyn. I don't remember us having a vote on Trump?

[slappy]

Anyway nowadays what gets my goat today is that I don't read newspapers and avoid news programmes on tv so that all this political, religious, whats on trend today shite passes me by but my favourite motorcycle forum is infested by these subjects so please can you all shut up or :foc .

[mtread]

OK. Back to bikes  8)

[YamFazFan]

At least you'd get an opportunity to vote on Corbyn. I don't remember us having a vote on Trump?

If you've not got American citizenship I don't suppose you're going to are you?.

I don't understand why all the champagne socialists etc... tell Trump he shouldn't come here.

If he comes and makes a fool of himself that's all power to their cause isn't it.

[steve 10562cc]

Trump I can put up with, :o but I draw the line at that piece of Harley sh*te he's sat on :eek

[mtread]

I don't understand why all the champagne socialists etc... tell Trump he shouldn't come here.

Don't get me wrong. I want Trump to come here so that the mass demonstrations embarras him and our government. The point of the campaign is to build up the embarrassment.


I don't think you understand socialism. The point of socialism is to enable everybody to drink champagne. Whereas working class Tories think that because they can't afford to drink champagne, other people shouldn't be allowed to  :pokefun

[YamFazFan]

I don't understand why all the champagne socialists etc... tell Trump he shouldn't come here.

Don't get me wrong. I want Trump to come here so that the mass demonstrations embarras him and our government. The point of the campaign is to build up the embarrassment.


I don't think you understand socialism. The point of socialism is to enable everybody to drink champagne. Whereas working class Tories think that because they can't afford to drink champagne, other people shouldn't be allowed to  :pokefun

Oi who's you calling working class?!! >:


:lol :lol

[VNA]

 

I'm not here to do anything for any union?
What i have done though is put money into the country by getting a job 2 weeks after leaving school and never being out of work since.
As far as my interest can stretch on this subject, it would appear that Labour is the immigrants friend, and Tories are the rich mans friend.
I'm neither.

Democracy is what it is.  The people will only get out of it what they put into it.  As I say the people will get the government they deserve.

Try telling that to some of the hardline Remoaners and anti-Trump virtue signallers and see how far you get.

People do not necessarily change their views or their outlook because of the result of a referendum or election. 

I don't like Corbyn, but if he won a free and fair election I would defend his right to travel freely, be heard and represent the office of Prime Minister.

Thanks to many MP’s in the Labour Party, the Labour party has lost the last two elections.  They refused to accept the democratic will of the membership and undermined first Ed Miliband and then Jeremy Corbyn.  Such was the arrogance of these MPs that they even held and won a vote of no confidence in their leader Jeremy Corbyn.  Corbyn was then re-elected with an even bigger majority.


It is because of those anti-democratic MPs, who thought that they knew better than the membership of the party that the UK is in the current mess that it is today.  Those MP’s along with their supporters in the Trade Union Movement denied the people of this country a Labour government twice over. 



There never should have been a referendum on the EU.
But what we need now is a second referendum on the EU.