21-10-25, 11:12 AM
Bling is just that bling, this won't offer any improvement beyond what the standard swinger had and if you think is will or does it's in your head, as said it's just bling. Not very well made bling either by the sounds of it if you've got to start cutting/welding and modding to get it to fit!
Still each to their own will be interesting to see it finished.
Sumitomo calipers were and still are top notch hence Yamaha still fit them, albeit with slightly bigger pistons and now radial versions.
EBC pads aren't what they used to be, ever since they were bought out by the yanks in the early 2000's, compounds are now high wear on the discs and pads tolerances vary, they're also smaller compared to OE. Same applies to their discs, they're cheap for a reason, often OE is only slightly more even cheaper!
Main reason these calipers get screwed, fitting shite cheap pads and not replacing the tension shims, which over time loose their tension and allow the pads to vibrate/move. Which if left, wears groves into the caliper bodies and in time will allow the pads to twist and jam in the bodies, first signs of that is lack of initial bite,feel and tapering pads. Chuck in EBC or other cheaper replacements and in short order the braking is half what it should be and the calipers are destroyed. I've got/had a fair few customers who've covered 50k plus FZS600s/1000's, Thunder aces/cats, XJR1300s and R1s that have had no issues with their calipers. Common denominator they don't use EBC and change the tension shims every 18k, plus proper servicing.
EBC hit the market as a cheaper option in the early/mid 90's good when the first arrived not so after the yanks got hold of them early 2000's and cut cost i.e cheaper materials etc. About the same time others begun to enter the motorcycle pad market, Ferodo, Galfer, Brembo, SBK etc plus a few others who are no longer around and made utter shite.
Best pads to fit are OE end of, they just aren't cheap and don't come in HH only GG. Same for the FZS600, XJR1300, but this side of a race trace you don't need HH or you could always fit the pads from an R1. Carbon Lorraine (CL), was the best next option back in the day, as good as OE and they did come in HH. You can still get them only they're just as expensive if not more as OE now and not commonly held by stockists these days. SBK is what I fit for my customers reasonable price and perform as good as OE and CL.
Nothing wrong with Sumitomo calipers just people working/playing on/with them.
Still each to their own will be interesting to see it finished.
Sumitomo calipers were and still are top notch hence Yamaha still fit them, albeit with slightly bigger pistons and now radial versions.
EBC pads aren't what they used to be, ever since they were bought out by the yanks in the early 2000's, compounds are now high wear on the discs and pads tolerances vary, they're also smaller compared to OE. Same applies to their discs, they're cheap for a reason, often OE is only slightly more even cheaper!
Main reason these calipers get screwed, fitting shite cheap pads and not replacing the tension shims, which over time loose their tension and allow the pads to vibrate/move. Which if left, wears groves into the caliper bodies and in time will allow the pads to twist and jam in the bodies, first signs of that is lack of initial bite,feel and tapering pads. Chuck in EBC or other cheaper replacements and in short order the braking is half what it should be and the calipers are destroyed. I've got/had a fair few customers who've covered 50k plus FZS600s/1000's, Thunder aces/cats, XJR1300s and R1s that have had no issues with their calipers. Common denominator they don't use EBC and change the tension shims every 18k, plus proper servicing.
EBC hit the market as a cheaper option in the early/mid 90's good when the first arrived not so after the yanks got hold of them early 2000's and cut cost i.e cheaper materials etc. About the same time others begun to enter the motorcycle pad market, Ferodo, Galfer, Brembo, SBK etc plus a few others who are no longer around and made utter shite.
Best pads to fit are OE end of, they just aren't cheap and don't come in HH only GG. Same for the FZS600, XJR1300, but this side of a race trace you don't need HH or you could always fit the pads from an R1. Carbon Lorraine (CL), was the best next option back in the day, as good as OE and they did come in HH. You can still get them only they're just as expensive if not more as OE now and not commonly held by stockists these days. SBK is what I fit for my customers reasonable price and perform as good as OE and CL.
Nothing wrong with Sumitomo calipers just people working/playing on/with them.
Later