Try these https://www.motolegends.com/held-cold-ch...e-in-black
I've used these and their predecessors (https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/re...in1-review you might still be able to get these if you hunt around) for about 10yrs ish, best I could find, for fit, performance and value etc, for under hour or so riding in 5* or all
day for above 5*.
But do bear in mind and from my own experience of long haul (Germany/UK and West Country/Oxfordshire daily) commuting, it doesn't matter what make/type/expense once the temperature starts going south of 5* nothing will keep you warm for longer than an hour at best. If you want to keep both warm and dry you need heated, my go to is these are these https://gerbing.co.uk/collections/motorc...ycle-glove
Used them in -5* 4- 8 hours, warm hands on mid setting and for 4-5 hours of rain dry hands, had them a good few years. The only criticism I have is that they are long cuff only. I always put the jacket cuff over my gloves, I still do with these but my WP has big enough cuffs to accommodate that, many don't. That said a mate uses them and puts the long cuff over his jacket, using the draw string inner flap on the gloves, he's been on the same rides as me and hasn't got wet.
As for fit I think it's fair to say many of us have the same issues and that the sizing differs not only across the makes but one pair and another of the same make/type. I've even swap a left/right with another pair in the past to get a better fit, my issue isn't normally finger length, it's thumb and across the knuckles. As with a lot of things that are made for the masses it's a trade off/compromise in certain areas, I have to learn to adapt to any given trade off/compromise, obviously there's a limit to that and we all have different limits.
Unless you go bespoke, which you can but it's not cheap, you're going to have to compromise.
I've used these and their predecessors (https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/re...in1-review you might still be able to get these if you hunt around) for about 10yrs ish, best I could find, for fit, performance and value etc, for under hour or so riding in 5* or all
day for above 5*.
But do bear in mind and from my own experience of long haul (Germany/UK and West Country/Oxfordshire daily) commuting, it doesn't matter what make/type/expense once the temperature starts going south of 5* nothing will keep you warm for longer than an hour at best. If you want to keep both warm and dry you need heated, my go to is these are these https://gerbing.co.uk/collections/motorc...ycle-glove
Used them in -5* 4- 8 hours, warm hands on mid setting and for 4-5 hours of rain dry hands, had them a good few years. The only criticism I have is that they are long cuff only. I always put the jacket cuff over my gloves, I still do with these but my WP has big enough cuffs to accommodate that, many don't. That said a mate uses them and puts the long cuff over his jacket, using the draw string inner flap on the gloves, he's been on the same rides as me and hasn't got wet.
As for fit I think it's fair to say many of us have the same issues and that the sizing differs not only across the makes but one pair and another of the same make/type. I've even swap a left/right with another pair in the past to get a better fit, my issue isn't normally finger length, it's thumb and across the knuckles. As with a lot of things that are made for the masses it's a trade off/compromise in certain areas, I have to learn to adapt to any given trade off/compromise, obviously there's a limit to that and we all have different limits.
Unless you go bespoke, which you can but it's not cheap, you're going to have to compromise.
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