Well even Hel aren't above a abusing thier customers and ripping them off, so I dont trust them either...
A few years ago I was conned by Hel into buying a 7 hose kit from them for my GSF1250 ABS in relaqtion rpelaceing all the old hoses on the bike to try and improve the power/feel of the brakes. They said and I quote "we will not sell you just the hoses you need, you 'HAVE' to buy all the hoses". So in this instance -
3, from the front MasterCyliner(MC) to yoke mounted fixed spilt and from there to each front caliper.
2, from the fixed split to the ABS unit.
2, from ABS unit to the rear MC and from MC to rear caliper.
That 7x hose kit at the time cost me £170. I would have gotten a 4 hose kit from Goodridge for a lot less,
All I actually needed to f***king replace was the 3 front hoses and one of the rear's. The 2x hoses from the fixed-split to the ABS units are hardline for 95% of thier length and I found out after the fact from Suzuki that they never replace those lines due to the flexaible parts being so short that would not suffer from the useual ageing issues that effect stock hydrolic hoses. The same comment was made regarding the hose going from the rear MC to the ABS unit.
Oh and the icing on the cake on the grand story surrounding these f***ing hoses? The local shop that fitted the above kit, incorrectly routed the 2x fixed-split to ABS hoses so that one of them dropped down and rubbed on the drive chain!!!!. It was only by shear luck that the hose failed when I doing an upgrade of the front calipers (thats a story for another day) and NOT while I was riding the damn bike!!! I would have screamed at the shop, but they were no longer trading by then. I had to take the damaged hose to "Universal hose & fittings" in Watford where they replaired the damage, because like f*** was I going to pay Hel for a replacement!
[update]
So I had to contact Hel a few months ago to get one of the hoses replaced (lifetime warranty) and they were helpful and quick, which partly conteracts the bad experience mentioned above.
A few years ago I was conned by Hel into buying a 7 hose kit from them for my GSF1250 ABS in relaqtion rpelaceing all the old hoses on the bike to try and improve the power/feel of the brakes. They said and I quote "we will not sell you just the hoses you need, you 'HAVE' to buy all the hoses". So in this instance -
3, from the front MasterCyliner(MC) to yoke mounted fixed spilt and from there to each front caliper.
2, from the fixed split to the ABS unit.
2, from ABS unit to the rear MC and from MC to rear caliper.
That 7x hose kit at the time cost me £170. I would have gotten a 4 hose kit from Goodridge for a lot less,
All I actually needed to f***king replace was the 3 front hoses and one of the rear's. The 2x hoses from the fixed-split to the ABS units are hardline for 95% of thier length and I found out after the fact from Suzuki that they never replace those lines due to the flexaible parts being so short that would not suffer from the useual ageing issues that effect stock hydrolic hoses. The same comment was made regarding the hose going from the rear MC to the ABS unit.
Oh and the icing on the cake on the grand story surrounding these f***ing hoses? The local shop that fitted the above kit, incorrectly routed the 2x fixed-split to ABS hoses so that one of them dropped down and rubbed on the drive chain!!!!. It was only by shear luck that the hose failed when I doing an upgrade of the front calipers (thats a story for another day) and NOT while I was riding the damn bike!!! I would have screamed at the shop, but they were no longer trading by then. I had to take the damaged hose to "Universal hose & fittings" in Watford where they replaired the damage, because like f*** was I going to pay Hel for a replacement!
[update]
So I had to contact Hel a few months ago to get one of the hoses replaced (lifetime warranty) and they were helpful and quick, which partly conteracts the bad experience mentioned above.