15-11-20, 06:36 PM
(15-11-20, 12:24 PM)maddog04 link Wrote: the point everyone is missing, is that members of the jury will decide on his fate and chances are, if there's bikers on that jury then they'll be doing their utmost to get him off
as someone who's done jury service, let me explain what you're up against
I had a paedo case, before we'd even sat down in the ante room, a grandmother on the jury said he's guilty.....I've got grandkids and we don't want him on the streets. As you can imagine.....the rest of us were shocked. We hadn't even gone into the courtroom to hear his name and she was adamant he was going down.
the defence QC was ok but the prosecution was QC was shit, got names, streets mixed up etc....so much so that I thought he was deliberately trying to catch out the witness but it continued.....he was just incompetent
2nd case was similar and to my surprise I thought they'd be on remand but the pair of them travelled in by train each day. Even as the judge took our guilty verdict, he addressed them in the dock and told them to report back to court after xmas for sentencing. I couldn't believe what I was witnessing.....I though they were being sent down on the spot
another mate had a young lad on the jury who said, I don't know much about life coz I'm young....I'll just go with the flow
I often wonder how many innocent/guilty people are in gaol or let off coz of jury members leanings
I totally understand where you're coming from.
I've been called twice to do jury service, a few years apart, and it is amazing how you can make an initial presumption but then after hearing the evidence you find yourself being completely wrong.
And it only takes a dominant member of a jury who is more vocal than the others to try and take control and it can all go the way of their thinking.
I'll never forget during one case in the jury room one of the jurors said out loud "Can we hurry this up, i need to do my washing."
The bloke in court was looking at 3 years if found guilty.
I was not impressed and told him straight.
There were also 3 jurors who took no notes and could barely speak English either.
On these 2 incidents alone if I ever found myself in court I would have to plead not guilty in the hope that the jury were as incompetent as these few were.
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