From wednesday we can use our bikes again.

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1. Some firms shut because they were ordered to (pubs, cinema, non-essential shops etc- staff furloughed
2. some shut because they had no work as a result (commercial cleaners that speacialised in cinemas etc) - staff furloughed
3. Some shut as they were not safe initially to continue (Bentley cars etc) then gradually reopened as they made working space safe etc - staff furloughed initially
4. Some shut because they misinterpreted what was said - poor management - staff furloughed
5. Some shut because they were on the ropes already and used it as an excuse - poor management - staff furloughed

At no point did the government say do not do to work unless it is essential  In fact the welsh wording is …..

With the exception of the organisations covered in the guidance on businesses closures the government has not required any other businesses to close – indeed it is important for business to carry on.  However, new requirements came into force on 7 April which means that all businesses and persons responsible for work which is being carried out on premises to take all reasonable measures to ensure that 2 metres distance is kept between all people on those premises (except members of the same household e.g. where a tradesperson is carrying out repairs in someone’s home).  This includes work being carried out both indoors and outdoors.

This can be seen here https://gov.wales/staying-home-and-away-...tion-39182
A lot of people tool this to mean essential work only to be carried out when in fact it wasn't.


Now the government is trying to get people to go back that fall into category 3, 4 & 5 above by trying to make it clearer. Any that can, should, if it is safe to do so. As such, it is only people that CANNOT do their job safely or falls into 1 & 2 above that should be staying at home 100% of the time claiming the furlough.

It matters not, what of your interpreted categories you think he falls in, they yours not the emergency measures.  The list the Welch government closed is the same as in England at the time and is extensive https://gov.wales/coronavirus-covid-19-c...d-premises there would alosbe other business that couldn't operate as something they or supplied went to a business that was shut, so by definition they can't continue trading. Or perhaps their all lazy sods too? 

The chap works in whatever business in England that was shut for whatever reason, he now needs to go back to work in England due to the changes in England, it couldn't by definition be essential or directly/indirectly working for or supplying an essential business or he wouldn't have been off.   

This issue here is and is all part of the utter confusion Boris and the English government has now crated is Wales is still under one set of rules and England under another, hence the post.  Confusion end of.

And are you still saying my Mrs and everybody else that's furloughed is lazy sod, as you've conveniently dodged that question? 
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Gnasher - I provided a link to the welsh assembly wording. The UK wording is very similar. Only certain businesses were forced to close. Others chose to close for a variety of reasons. As for the "lazy sods" comment, read it again. I actually said " the lazy sods who could work SAFELY but chose to sit at home". The key word there is "chose". i.e wont go back to work even though they could.