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Cornering
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(22-06-19, 07:33 PM)Grahamm link Wrote: [quote author=Steve3351 link=topic=25373.msg299668#msg299668 date=1561205137]
I think we have established that changing down and using engine braking on the approach to a bend, and then trail braking into the curve is a good practice...

I disagree about "trail braking", especially if the road is wet or potentially slippery. It might be a good technique on a race track, but there you don't have to worry about on-coming traffic...

My advice is to get your braking done *before* you turn into the bend and stay away from the front brake, but it's your life and your choice.

Quote:the problem I find is that u have to quickly switch from front brake to throttle at the apex, which is tricky....some recommend using only two fingers on the brake..but I don't find that easy

If I'm riding in traffic at low speeds, I'm almost always two-finger braking with my index and middle finger on the brake lever and my ring finger and little finger wrapped around the throttle.

What are you finding difficult about it? If it's the reach, try getting yourself a set of adjustable clutch and brake levers from eBay. there's plenty of Chinese ones on there which I and other Foccers use.

To set them, what I do is to set my hand for two-finger braking, then adjust them such that, at full squeeze, they don't quite squash my fingers on the throttle.

But I wouldn't use two-finger braking on a bend at speed, again, it might work for racing, but it's not so great on the open road...
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Sorry Grahammm & Dude, I have to disagree, trail braking into a bend is not a good thing. I agree with your comment Grahammm of getting the braking done before you hit your turn in point.

Regarding the braking to the apex comment - I've never been taught to brake to the apex and then apply throttle  at the apex and I really think that's a bad approach. Most racers are already on the throttle before the apex. The apex isn't where you aim to stop braking, the turn-in point for the corner is basically where you stop braking.

There's an excellent section in the book "Twist of The Wrist" by Keith Code which explains this clearly (there's a lot of other tecchy stuff in the book that's hard to read too though) - Keith Code founded the California Superbike School and has taught many of the world's top riders over the past 30 years and the first time I did a CSS racing school day, they taught it exactly as it says in the book and still do.
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Cornering - by Steve3351 - 14-06-19, 07:40 PM
Re: Cornering - by VNA - 14-06-19, 07:51 PM
Re: Cornering - by Steve3351 - 14-06-19, 07:57 PM
Re: Cornering - by BBROWN1664 - 14-06-19, 08:23 PM
Re: Cornering - by Steve3351 - 14-06-19, 09:15 PM
Re: Cornering - by mickvp - 14-06-19, 09:35 PM
Re: Cornering - by VNA - 14-06-19, 09:40 PM
Re: Cornering - by Steve3351 - 14-06-19, 10:57 PM
Re: Cornering - by Frosties - 15-06-19, 12:31 AM
Re: Cornering - by Grahamm - 15-06-19, 12:32 AM
Re: Cornering - by VNA - 15-06-19, 01:23 AM
Re: Cornering - by YamFazFan - 15-06-19, 07:33 AM
Re: Cornering - by darrsi - 15-06-19, 07:42 AM
Re: Cornering - by darrsi - 15-06-19, 07:46 AM
Re: Cornering - by Flooky - 15-06-19, 07:56 AM
Re: Cornering - by YamFazFan - 15-06-19, 07:56 AM
Re: Cornering - by Frosties - 15-06-19, 08:02 AM
Re: Cornering - by YamFazFan - 15-06-19, 08:21 AM
Re: Cornering - by YamFazFan - 15-06-19, 08:23 AM
Re: Cornering - by Frosties - 15-06-19, 09:46 AM
Re: Cornering - by darrsi - 15-06-19, 10:09 AM
Re: Cornering - by BBROWN1664 - 15-06-19, 11:18 AM
Re: Cornering - by VNA - 15-06-19, 11:51 AM
Re: Cornering - by Frosties - 15-06-19, 12:31 PM
Re: Cornering - by unfazed - 15-06-19, 12:39 PM
Re: Cornering - by VNA - 15-06-19, 01:01 PM
Re: Cornering - by Steve3351 - 15-06-19, 01:09 PM
Re: Cornering - by VNA - 15-06-19, 01:43 PM
Re: Cornering - by Steve3351 - 15-06-19, 01:52 PM
Re: Cornering - by Steve3351 - 15-06-19, 02:44 PM
Re: Cornering - by VNA - 15-06-19, 03:18 PM
Re: Cornering - by fazersharp - 15-06-19, 03:32 PM
Re: Cornering - by unfazed - 15-06-19, 03:40 PM
Re: Cornering - by ogri48 - 15-06-19, 05:48 PM
Re: Cornering - by unfazed - 15-06-19, 06:01 PM
Re: Cornering - by unfazed - 15-06-19, 06:11 PM
Re: Cornering - by fazersharp - 15-06-19, 06:59 PM
Re: Cornering - by Grahamm - 15-06-19, 09:43 PM
Re: Cornering - by Steve3351 - 15-06-19, 10:53 PM
Re: Cornering - by VNA - 16-06-19, 01:51 AM
Re: Cornering - by noggythenog - 17-06-19, 10:45 AM
Re: Cornering - by fazersharp - 17-06-19, 11:54 AM
Re: Cornering - by noggythenog - 17-06-19, 04:18 PM
Re: Cornering - by Salty - 17-06-19, 05:02 PM
Re: Cornering - by VNA - 17-06-19, 06:34 PM
Re: Cornering - by His Dudeness - 17-06-19, 09:05 PM
Re: Cornering - by Flooky - 17-06-19, 09:07 PM
Re: Cornering - by Flooky - 17-06-19, 09:09 PM
Re: Cornering - by YamFazFan - 19-06-19, 11:36 AM
Re: Cornering - by Farmboy81 - 19-06-19, 11:54 AM
Re: Cornering - by Flooky - 19-06-19, 12:14 PM
Re: Cornering - by fazersharp - 19-06-19, 12:16 PM
Re: Cornering - by noggythenog - 19-06-19, 12:31 PM
Re: Cornering - by Grahamm - 19-06-19, 12:58 PM
Re: Cornering - by YamFazFan - 19-06-19, 01:12 PM
Re: Cornering - by fazersharp - 19-06-19, 01:25 PM
Re: Cornering - by VNA - 19-06-19, 04:12 PM
Re: Cornering - by VNA - 19-06-19, 05:09 PM
Re: Cornering - by robbo - 19-06-19, 05:40 PM
Re: Cornering - by Flooky - 19-06-19, 06:00 PM
Re: Cornering - by fazersharp - 19-06-19, 06:28 PM
Re: Cornering - by VNA - 19-06-19, 08:34 PM
Re: Cornering - by Slaninar - 19-06-19, 08:59 PM
Re: Cornering - by agricola - 19-06-19, 09:20 PM
Re: Cornering - by VNA - 19-06-19, 10:44 PM
Re: Cornering - by coffee - 19-06-19, 11:46 PM
Re: Cornering - by Steve3351 - 20-06-19, 10:21 PM
Re: Cornering - by Steve3351 - 22-06-19, 01:05 PM
Re: Cornering - by Grahamm - 22-06-19, 07:33 PM
Re: Cornering - by agricola - 22-06-19, 08:45 PM
Re: Cornering - by Dudeofrude - 22-06-19, 09:29 PM
Re: Cornering - by VNA - 22-06-19, 10:10 PM
Re: Cornering - by Millietant - 23-06-19, 12:16 AM
Re: Cornering - by Millietant - 23-06-19, 12:28 AM
Re: Cornering - by Dudeofrude - 23-06-19, 08:50 AM
Re: Cornering - by Dudeofrude - 23-06-19, 08:58 AM
Re: Cornering - by Millietant - 23-06-19, 10:45 AM
Re: Cornering - by Dudeofrude - 23-06-19, 11:19 AM
Re: Cornering - by VNA - 23-06-19, 11:23 AM
Re: Cornering - by VNA - 23-06-19, 11:24 AM
Re: Cornering - by Millietant - 23-06-19, 12:09 PM
Re: Cornering - by noggythenog - 23-06-19, 05:35 PM
Re: Cornering - by VNA - 23-06-19, 07:09 PM
Re: Cornering - by VNA - 23-06-19, 07:17 PM
Re: Cornering - by Grahamm - 23-06-19, 10:41 PM
Re: Cornering - by VNA - 23-06-19, 10:58 PM
Re: Cornering - by Grahamm - 24-06-19, 01:49 AM
Re: Cornering - by VNA - 24-06-19, 06:12 PM
Re: Cornering - by Grahamm - 24-06-19, 11:21 PM
Re: Cornering - by fazersharp - 25-06-19, 12:15 AM
Re: Cornering - by Dudeofrude - 25-06-19, 10:32 AM
Re: Cornering - by VNA - 25-06-19, 06:08 PM
Re: Cornering - by Steve3351 - 25-06-19, 06:35 PM
Re: Cornering - by midden - 26-06-19, 09:51 PM
Re: Cornering - by midden - 26-06-19, 09:56 PM
Re: Cornering - by Frosties - 26-06-19, 11:30 PM
Re: Cornering - by coffee - 28-06-19, 12:59 AM
Re: Cornering - by Millietant - 29-06-19, 04:22 AM

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