26-11-18, 10:39 PM
Quote:Ok lets have another referendum but the questions HAVE to include a No Deal exit as well as May's deal or stay.I voted to leave - I didn't vote for a deal - I didn't vote to give the EU 39 billion, none of that was on the ballot paper.And there should be NO debates in the run up from either side about the the pros and cons and lies and projects of fear or buses or gov printed pamphlets. It should be based on what we have learnt over the past 18 months and witnessed.If a no deal leave is on the ballot paper that is what most people will vote for - my prediction. We leave - the EU does not pass go they do not collect 39Billion. We then negotiate the bits we want how ever long the politicians want to take pissing about doing it, but we do it from a position of out and holding all the cash.I partially agree with you. Nobody knew what BREXIT would actually mean at the time of the referendum (though please remember the referendum is actually about the Tory party). Now we do. Or rather we know what the interim deal is.
Has anyone seen an itemised bill from the EU for the 39 billion.
As for NO DEAL, I do not think parliament would ever put that to the people. It’s not an option. The BREXITEERS will eventually have to accept that.
Quote:And there should be NO debates in the run up from either side about the the pros and cons and lies and projects of fear or buses or gov printed pamphlets.You can’t do that. It would be undemocratic. Illegal in fact.
Quote:Has anyone seen an itemised bill from the EU for the 39 billion.It is simply to fulfil our contractual obligations. Remember we are fully paid up members who are in fact tearing up our contract and getting divorced. So we have already approved and committed to expenditure, projects etc etc before June 2016.
And if you NO DEAL – our credit rating will be effected. If you NO DEAL and don’t pay, our credit rating will be trashed and our reputation around the globe damaged. Sadly we have no choice but to pay.
To be honest, we just have to sit back and see what happens at this point. I don’t think May’s deal will be voted through parliament (I could of course be wrong) and if it does indeed not pass, well it’s just a guessing game as to what happens next. A second referendum is just one of a number of possible options. This is a very serious UK political crises now.
Seriously as for NO DEAL. It’s just not going to happen. No idea what the bookies are offering on that, if they will even offer odds on it. I really do genuinely think it’s that low a possibility.
To get that you would have to elect the fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists – ie UKIP – whom I get the feeling barely exists now. :eek
