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Plastic waste in seas/oceans
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Wind turbines will never kill anything like the number of birds say killed by cats each year, or killed on the roads, or pesticides etc etc.  Birds are also generally smart enough to avoid wind turbines.  Not saying there are no birds killed by wind turbines – but in the real world it just simple is not an issue.  I’m not aware of noise pollution issues relating to wind turbines, sure it’s talked about but it’s bull shit.


But anyway, conventional power station is about 40% efficient with a 15-20% transmission loss.  They are crap.  However, crap as they are, charging an electric (electric motors are extremely efficient) car from this energy source is still more efficient than some even more crappier in energy efficient terms – and that’s the cars and motorcycles we are running about in/on.  The internal combustion engine needs to become a thing of the past – it will become dinosaur technology.


Nuclear Power?  Have they sorted out the waste issues at Sellafield yet?  You know the stuff from the first generation of reactors.  Umm no.  It’s like getting power now and pay later. 



Look it doesn’t matter which way you look at it – all energy at some point in the relatively near future has to become renewable. 



Don’t forget that we only have one source of energy at the end of the day and that’s the sun. 



Wind turbines have evolved to become proven cheap technology.  Solar and battery technology is going through that process.  The next leap forward for battery technology should be graphene.  Some folks reckon commercial graphene batteries are just a few years away. It will also solve the range issue.



Slappy has a point. 



Quote:To be green it all has to be done using renewable power supplies, so massive wind farms and solar panel farms etc have to be built, where are they going to build them?  Sticking a few solar panels and a little wind turbine on your garage is not going to do it!


Tidal and wave power too.  All over the fucking place.  We need more hydro schemes and big batteries (graphene again)  to try and store energy.


We need more electricity, but we need energy efficiency just as much.  We all live in energy inefficient houses leading our energy inefficient lives. 



But yeah right now today.  A family wanting a second car?  Lots of people, I think, are going to go electric for the second car.

 
And if nothing happens, if there is no change.  Well forget saving the planet, it’ll be fine, but there will be no more human race.

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Re: Plastic waste in seas/oceans - by darrsi - 06-10-18, 10:11 AM
Re: Plastic waste in seas/oceans - by Bretty - 06-10-18, 10:36 AM
Re: Plastic waste in seas/oceans - by slappy - 06-10-18, 11:39 AM
Re: Plastic waste in seas/oceans - by VNA - 06-10-18, 11:44 AM
Re: Plastic waste in seas/oceans - by VNA - 06-10-18, 11:49 AM
Re: Plastic waste in seas/oceans - by ogri48 - 06-10-18, 12:12 PM
Re: Plastic waste in seas/oceans - by VNA - 06-10-18, 12:13 PM
Re: Plastic waste in seas/oceans - by ogri48 - 06-10-18, 12:14 PM
Re: Plastic waste in seas/oceans - by Bretty - 06-10-18, 01:01 PM
Re: Plastic waste in seas/oceans - by VNA - 06-10-18, 02:12 PM
Re: Plastic waste in seas/oceans - by Oldgit - 06-10-18, 05:40 PM
Re: Plastic waste in seas/oceans - by slappy - 06-10-18, 06:11 PM
Re: Plastic waste in seas/oceans - by bludclot - 07-10-18, 10:05 AM
Re: Plastic waste in seas/oceans - by VNA - 08-10-18, 01:12 PM
Re: Plastic waste in seas/oceans - by VNA - 08-10-18, 06:23 PM
Re: Plastic waste in seas/oceans - by dazza - 08-10-18, 06:57 PM
Re: Plastic waste in seas/oceans - by agricola - 08-10-18, 07:31 PM
Re: Plastic waste in seas/oceans - by VNA - 08-10-18, 10:48 PM
Re: Plastic waste in seas/oceans - by Slaninar - 09-10-18, 04:51 AM
Re: Plastic waste in seas/oceans - by VNA - 09-10-18, 11:49 AM
Re: Plastic waste in seas/oceans - by Slaninar - 09-10-18, 01:12 PM
Re: Plastic waste in seas/oceans - by VNA - 09-10-18, 08:05 PM
Re: Plastic waste in seas/oceans - by agricola - 10-10-18, 11:14 AM
Re: Plastic waste in seas/oceans - by VNA - 10-10-18, 04:05 PM
Re: Plastic waste in seas/oceans - by mtread - 10-10-18, 06:26 PM
Re: Plastic waste in seas/oceans - by agricola - 10-10-18, 07:25 PM
Re: Plastic waste in seas/oceans - by mtread - 10-10-18, 10:17 PM
Re: Plastic waste in seas/oceans - by VNA - 11-10-18, 12:42 AM
Re: Plastic waste in seas/oceans - by mtread - 11-10-18, 09:54 AM
Re: Plastic waste in seas/oceans - by VNA - 11-10-18, 10:40 AM
Re: Plastic waste in seas/oceans - by VNA - 11-10-18, 10:41 AM
Re: Plastic waste in seas/oceans - by mtread - 11-10-18, 10:47 AM
Re: Plastic waste in seas/oceans - by VNA - 11-10-18, 11:16 AM
Re: Plastic waste in seas/oceans - by mtread - 11-10-18, 11:34 AM
Re: Plastic waste in seas/oceans - by slappy - 09-10-18, 05:14 PM
Re: Plastic waste in seas/oceans - by VNA - 24-10-18, 05:55 PM

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