23-01-18, 08:25 AM
(23-01-18, 12:37 AM)Grahamm link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=23665.msg274266#msg274266 date=1516551994]
Kids are little bastards, it's because they're kids and in the early learning stage.
Most grow out of it, some carry on being a bastard in later life too.
If anything they're worse now than they've ever been, mainly in the big cities.
If you think you can change them......good luck.
Children are not born racist.
Children are not born sexist.
Children are not born homophobic.
Children are not born trans-phobic
etc etc etc
But if they see older children and adults behaving in a particular way, they will copy that behaviour and it will become innate because they don't know any different. Then they go and replicate that behaviour and the whole sorry story continues.
I have two friends, one is a cis-woman, the other a trans-woman and they have a delightful little daughter who is very intelligent. One day she was outside and a little girl from a neighbour's house met her and they started playing.
Suddenly the other girl's mother came rushing out, dragging her daughter away saying "No, we don't play with her!"
That child is going to be brought up with the idea that two women (especially if one is trans) are people to be avoided, simply because her mother is a bigot.
Another example: there was a series on the BBC not long ago called "No more boys and girls" where a Doctor went into a Primary School class and changed the way they were taught, getting rid everything from gender separated coat racks to the teacher calling boys "mate" and girls "love".
The boy had an over-exaggerated idea of their own abilities whilst the girls were much less confident, but by the end of it, the girls were more self-confident interested in STEM careers etc and the boys behaviour was much improved and they were considerate of other people.
See https://www.standard.co.uk/stayingin/tvf...13406.html
So it *is* possible to stop children being little bastards but we need to start by making sure they don't *learn* to be little bastards!
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Actually i think you're just pissing in the wind if you think you can "teach" someone their personality.
Everyone has their own ideas and way of thinking which nobody else can have full control over at all. This is easily demonstrated by siblings who have grown up in the same household but then go their different ways, and can end up totally unlike each other due to the path they each took.
Also, once you leave your house for your first ever day at school you just don't know who your friends might be, or who might influence you whilst growing up. It's completely unknown if your kid for example suddenly becomes best friends with a loner, or is an attention seeker who wants to be in control of everyone?
Certainly there are aspects of home life that can influence a kid massively, best measured by the amount of attention given to them by their parents, but once they're in the company of kids that's when it can all go very good, or very bad.
As for children not being born racist, homophobic, etc, that all might work in your ideal land, but the reality is our schools these days are being filled with kids from certain religions where all of these things are blatantly taught as being "taboo" to say the very least, starting at home, so again there is also that mountain to climb.
Another thing that needs to be mentioned is the amount of drugs that are so easily available these days that have flooded the world. I never had any idea whatsoever about drugs when i was at school, not a clue, but you look at any suburban film involving teenage kids these days and there seems to be a constant flow and misuse of drugs. Guaranteed to change the nicest personality in the world to a fucked up degenerate.
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.