22-05-17, 09:37 AM
(22-05-17, 12:38 AM)Grahamm link Wrote: [quote author=Hedgetrimmer link=topic=22397.msg261034#msg261034 date=1495324869]
especially after other recent gaffs by, and divisions between, Labour members.
Oh yes, like Diane Abbot saying new Police Officers costing £300,000 instead of £3,000,000 and that being all over the news for a whole day.
By the way, did you hear about Philip Hammond get the price of the HS2 rail link wrong by 20 *BILLION* pounds? No? I wonder why not...?
Quote:So what do you do if you don't trust Labour on defence or the economy, but you don't trust the Tories for a fair society?
As I said in the post above: Vote Tactically to stop Kim Jong May getting an elected dictatorship.
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I have read & considered every post on this thread. Like many of my age I have seen so many changes politically,economically,socially in my 69 years.
I believe my country no longer has a clear sense of its role in the global economy. Our political institutions appear outdated & ineffectual. We , the ordinary citizens, are told to economise,tighten our belts,work harder with less job security,worse conditions of employment, & an uncertain old age(financially & health care provision). I have never known such a wide differential between the wealthy & the rest.
In my lifetime I can only think of one politician who made a lasting impact on the well being of the nation: Aneurin Bevan who formulated & implemented the NHS postwar.
I found myself watching the national news becoming increasingly angry, outraged, disillusioned by what i saw & heard.
Most daily newspapers are a joke but many seem to lap it all up & believe everything they read simply because its the printed word.
i was very fortunate to be born into postwar Britain & have the advantage of a good upbringing,education through the state system,& free healthcare all at a time of more or less full employment.
Now I SHOULD exercise my democratic right & vote on June 8th-but who for & for what? I, like Hedgetrimmer, am confused. I am deliberately keeping my personal views on Ireland, & other shameful involvements in other countries affairs out of this debate but I have little or no faith in any of the present crop of politicians making any beneficial changes let alone keeping any so-called election promises! :eek [/quote]