14-05-17, 05:44 PM
(14-05-17, 04:20 PM)maddog04 link Wrote: [size=1em]Gnasher, I think you're talking bollox mate and I'm not being confrontational her, to answer your points:[/size]
[size=1em]I see really, the only bollocks anywhere here matey is you, just check out the what you've written [/size] :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
(14-05-17, 04:20 PM)maddog04 link Wrote: [size=1em]every road has a limit and you drive to conditions too, why was this not one of them[/size]
The P driver was doing 25 in a 30 or so it was stated that's 5 mph under the maximum, this is a P driver, he got stopped as the officer had the opinion he was either doing an excessive speed or over took when it wasn't safe to do so.
(14-05-17, 04:20 PM)maddog04 link Wrote: [size=1em]whether he's on an advanced test or not, overtaking a P driver is not against the law and you wouldn't fail a test, you'd be more likely to fail it if you sat behind when an overtake was possible....given you don't break the limit.[/size][size=1em]
Sitting behind a P driver at 5 mph under the maximum isn't a dangerous position, over taking at excessive speed or when not safe to do so is, hence he got stopped. I know loads of advanced instructors who wouldn't give you a second chance on a test, they may while training but not during a test.
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(14-05-17, 04:20 PM)maddog04 link Wrote: [size=1em]Saying that, I know certain examiners would let it go once [/size][size=1em]instead of you sitting in a potential dangerous position (my examiner gave me the opportunity of following him outside a mile long line of standing traffic, otherwise the first hour of my test would've seen me sat in a queue[/size]
[size=1em]T[/size][size=1em]his [/size][size=1em]is a completely different situation and you were inside the law i.e. not using excessive speed. [/size]
(14-05-17, 04:20 PM)maddog04 link Wrote:
[size=1em]u[/size][size=1em]nless you're a slow moving wagon or learner on the motorway, most vehicles are surprised by someone doing 50 as its not expected, good observations are key to progressing but most people don't have that skill without taking further training. I still stand by my remarks about doing 50% of the speed in a given speed zone is dangerous if there's no other factors involved and its just down to a slow driver[/size]
Bollocks utter bollocks, use the other 2 lanes anyone getting[size=1em] surprised by slower moving traffic on a motorway isn't driving with due care and attention. We drive in this country to the conditions of the road at the time not to some made up rule i.e. you must be doing 50% of the maximum permitted limit what total bollocks is that [/size][size=1em] :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin [/size]
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There's also a little thing called due care and attention, over taking P drives in 30mph areas at what the officer deemed 45mph isn't due care that's why he was stopped. Getting caught out by slower moving traffic on a motorway isn't showing attention. Driving as you are trying to justify is what causes many RTC's where people are driving too fast and not the the road conditions, making last minute manoeuvres to avoid hitting slower traffic and causing others to brake or manoeuvre into the path of others[/size].
(14-05-17, 04:22 PM)Skippernick link Wrote: Im with you.
It may be called a speed limit, but it is also the recommended speed for any given road, so that all road user can make a safe and progressive journey.
As I said these are maximum not you got the drive at that speed.
I'm going to step away now, I'd like to hear from advanced instructors or traffic police, what's your view? I know there a good few on here

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