30-12-16, 04:41 PM
@agree Dude
the point I was making was obviously missed. The point was if the car test was as hard to do and get to "unlimited" status, there would be an outcry but as bikes are a minority transport they get picked on unfailrly. The reason used for picking on bike is related to the accident statistics for KSI's in bike accidents vs. car accidents and the fact that proportionally we are involved in more accidents than car drivers.
Some of this is true. Some is bollocks. Car drivers have a lot more accidents than recorded, its just that they can still drive away so goes unrecorded.
If drivers were made to spend 12 months (or more) on a bike before they were allowed behind the wheel of a car, the number of bike accidents would go down as the myopic ones would suddenly be more aware of their surroundings and look out for bikes.
how about this revised route then?
CBT @ 16 and a moped
Phase 1 @ 17 years old and a minimum of 12 months after CBT date, only allowed to drive cars up-to 50bhp and not allowed on dual carriageways or motorways. No audio systems allowed to be turned on in the car. You want more, do phase 2.
Phase 2. Two years after Phase 1 pass, allowed up to 100bhp and now allowed on dual carriageways and motorways but still no ICE
Phase 3. Four years after Phase 1 pass, unlimited power cars and ICE allowed
anyone caught driving a car too powerful or with the stereo on when they are not meant to have them will get instant driving bans and forced to retake test etc.
and for bikes
CBT @ 16 and a moped
At 17, a 125 on L plates but once test passed (lets call it phase 1 again) up to 50bhp and not allowed on dual carriageways or motorways
Phase 2. Two years after Phase 1 pass, allowed up to 100bhp and now allowed on dual carriageways and motorways.
Phase 3. Four years after Phase 1 pass, unlimited power bikes
If they levelled the playing field (as they used to have) then bikes will be a lot more popular.
the point I was making was obviously missed. The point was if the car test was as hard to do and get to "unlimited" status, there would be an outcry but as bikes are a minority transport they get picked on unfailrly. The reason used for picking on bike is related to the accident statistics for KSI's in bike accidents vs. car accidents and the fact that proportionally we are involved in more accidents than car drivers.
Some of this is true. Some is bollocks. Car drivers have a lot more accidents than recorded, its just that they can still drive away so goes unrecorded.
If drivers were made to spend 12 months (or more) on a bike before they were allowed behind the wheel of a car, the number of bike accidents would go down as the myopic ones would suddenly be more aware of their surroundings and look out for bikes.
how about this revised route then?
CBT @ 16 and a moped
Phase 1 @ 17 years old and a minimum of 12 months after CBT date, only allowed to drive cars up-to 50bhp and not allowed on dual carriageways or motorways. No audio systems allowed to be turned on in the car. You want more, do phase 2.
Phase 2. Two years after Phase 1 pass, allowed up to 100bhp and now allowed on dual carriageways and motorways but still no ICE
Phase 3. Four years after Phase 1 pass, unlimited power cars and ICE allowed
anyone caught driving a car too powerful or with the stereo on when they are not meant to have them will get instant driving bans and forced to retake test etc.
and for bikes
CBT @ 16 and a moped
At 17, a 125 on L plates but once test passed (lets call it phase 1 again) up to 50bhp and not allowed on dual carriageways or motorways
Phase 2. Two years after Phase 1 pass, allowed up to 100bhp and now allowed on dual carriageways and motorways.
Phase 3. Four years after Phase 1 pass, unlimited power bikes
If they levelled the playing field (as they used to have) then bikes will be a lot more popular.
Another ex-Fazer rider that is a foccer again