07-12-16, 10:15 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-12-16, 11:07 PM by pilninggas.)
And I thought you were a socialist.
The BoE and the IMF both talked Brexit down and Remain up - they didn't do it for much beyond keeping the stock of the very wealthy high. When we voted out they backtracked. There's a case for giving Art Carney the poke. The IMF is thoroughly discredited anyway (Lagarde is a bent ponce).
People I know who voted leave, knew we may well be 'poorer' in the short term and be brave about the future. Could be worse anyway, being young and in the Eurozone is disgracefully represive 50% unemployment, cheaper to brain-drain the East and not train the young - free movement means less investment in your own people just pinch the skilled from elsewhere. What a legacy!
The EU just won't reform, it won't; it might enact some panic tactics now others are seeing a post bloc future, but it'll be a sleight of hand. The Commission is too fixed in it's ways to change and as indirectly appointed executive isn't going to get 'voted out'. Maybe some MEPs will shit themselves and start taking them to task [can't see it though].
You have said there is no advantage to leaving, I still see exiting CAP and managing our subsidies as a classically obvious reason to leave. Why should UK taxpayers fund the farmers of other countries? Why isn't removing another layer of governance an advantage? I want less politicians making higher quality decisions, not loads contradicting each other on different levels
When we go, there will be recessions, they may happen in our neighbours who have balanced their books based on payments from the EU who paid from our remittance. I like many of those countries, and their people, but we do not owe them any favours.
I'd also love to sit in on a trade deal as Germany works to get a great deal for it's auto industry as the UK is it's biggest customer.
Exciting times.
The BoE and the IMF both talked Brexit down and Remain up - they didn't do it for much beyond keeping the stock of the very wealthy high. When we voted out they backtracked. There's a case for giving Art Carney the poke. The IMF is thoroughly discredited anyway (Lagarde is a bent ponce).
People I know who voted leave, knew we may well be 'poorer' in the short term and be brave about the future. Could be worse anyway, being young and in the Eurozone is disgracefully represive 50% unemployment, cheaper to brain-drain the East and not train the young - free movement means less investment in your own people just pinch the skilled from elsewhere. What a legacy!
The EU just won't reform, it won't; it might enact some panic tactics now others are seeing a post bloc future, but it'll be a sleight of hand. The Commission is too fixed in it's ways to change and as indirectly appointed executive isn't going to get 'voted out'. Maybe some MEPs will shit themselves and start taking them to task [can't see it though].
You have said there is no advantage to leaving, I still see exiting CAP and managing our subsidies as a classically obvious reason to leave. Why should UK taxpayers fund the farmers of other countries? Why isn't removing another layer of governance an advantage? I want less politicians making higher quality decisions, not loads contradicting each other on different levels
When we go, there will be recessions, they may happen in our neighbours who have balanced their books based on payments from the EU who paid from our remittance. I like many of those countries, and their people, but we do not owe them any favours.
I'd also love to sit in on a trade deal as Germany works to get a great deal for it's auto industry as the UK is it's biggest customer.
Exciting times.