23-06-16, 10:35 PM
(This post was last modified: 23-06-16, 10:38 PM by Millietant.)
(23-06-16, 07:36 PM)VNA link Wrote:Quote:No - Jean Claude Juncker (the voice of the EU) has clearly stated that we will NOT have an option to try to change things.
I don't think that is what he has said, and in any case it is not up to him.
If it is leave, and believe me I hope it is not, then DC will invoke EU article 50 - that is the process that allows any memeber step to leave. DC will then be thrown out of the room, and the remaining members discess our withdrawl.
We can apply to rejoin, but conditions of joining are accepting the Euro, we would have to accept the Schengen area (passport free movement), we wouldn't get a rebate and all the stuff we have vetoed we'd have to accept.
It does look like, once we are out we are out.
And talking of out, we hear a lot of whinging that people like Jean Claude Juncker are unelected, well once we are out David Cameron is toast, he will sooner than later stand down, and the UK will shortly after be lead by an unelcted PM up until the next General Election.
You may not THINK that is what he said, but if you read the quotes, that is exactly what he said. He started using it in relation to our Leave vote, but finished by saying categorically that there was no more change to be had, Cameron had gotten the maximum the EU were prepared to give. If subsequently we do get more, as a result of a Remain vote, the J-P Juncker had publicly and undeniably lied to the entire British nation with the sole purpose of bullying us to comply with his/Eu's wishes - that would really sum up the EU and doubly justify why we should have voted Leave.
All of our PM's have been "unelected" - Labour, Tory, Liberal, whoever it may have been. In a general election we Do Not vote for a PM and we never have - im not sure you actually understand our electoral system? You're definitely confusing me on this.