06-03-16, 09:23 PM
Well this argument comes around every so often, yes there is an issue with identification while wearing a helmet as there is when wearing a baseball cap burka etc, now I use a flip front helmet which is lifted when fueling up and this gives a decent view of my face for security reasons but I have been asked to remove it before being allowed to fuel up.
So you have to take off your helmet but where do you put it ? hang on the bars with a chance it will drop off ? on the floor with all the spilt fuel? on the pump 1 if there is room 2 if it is flat making it safe to put your lid there, now if it is raining it makes things worse.
I have been asked to remove my helmet before being allowed to fuel up this was over the tannoy, so it is pointed out to everyone on the forecourt that there must be something wrong with the guy on the bike as they are telling him to take off his helmet, nasty violent criminal bloody biker!! So I went in to the shop asking why got the usual rubbish so I asked can they see my face "yes of course I can" well why do I need to take my helmet off? company policy! OK so why are there no notices at the pumps on the shop door or at the tills ? Umm don't know. Well I am going to fill up now as you have seen my face and have me on the CCTV in the shop and the forecourt so are you going to activate the pump? NO
So as there was a queue forming behind me I kept going (only one till in use) asking why they would not activate the pump as they have seen my face company policy again OK so why is there no safe clean area for me to put my helmet down ? don't know? OK so if I take my helmet off at the pump and it becomes damaged either from falling or being contaminated by fuel from the floor or pedestal would they cover the damage to the helmet Umm no OK so if I take it off and leave it here will you take responsibility for the helmet? Umm no.
Now some say that anyone who refuses to remove their helmet is being unreasonable but surely the stations are as bad by not giving us somewhere safe to put our lids lets face it they can be very expensive and even if lightly damaged it is recommended they are replaced! and then comes the issue of other items that obscure the face such as baseball caps burkas etc you pull a cap down and keep your head tilted down you can see someone's face can you but they don't need to be removed and these are not part of a "religious" requirement.
Banks I have walked into a bank with my lid up but on (busy and just forgot about taking it off) now as I did not have to fuel up or anything so my hands are free to hold the helmet and the banks are usually free from spilt fuel so have plenty of safe places to put the lid down if needed I usually take it off, I took my payment book and cash to the counter and paid in the cashier said thanks handed me the book back and said can you take the helmet off completely next time please, I said Oops sorry and had a no problems back.
So you have to take off your helmet but where do you put it ? hang on the bars with a chance it will drop off ? on the floor with all the spilt fuel? on the pump 1 if there is room 2 if it is flat making it safe to put your lid there, now if it is raining it makes things worse.
I have been asked to remove my helmet before being allowed to fuel up this was over the tannoy, so it is pointed out to everyone on the forecourt that there must be something wrong with the guy on the bike as they are telling him to take off his helmet, nasty violent criminal bloody biker!! So I went in to the shop asking why got the usual rubbish so I asked can they see my face "yes of course I can" well why do I need to take my helmet off? company policy! OK so why are there no notices at the pumps on the shop door or at the tills ? Umm don't know. Well I am going to fill up now as you have seen my face and have me on the CCTV in the shop and the forecourt so are you going to activate the pump? NO
So as there was a queue forming behind me I kept going (only one till in use) asking why they would not activate the pump as they have seen my face company policy again OK so why is there no safe clean area for me to put my helmet down ? don't know? OK so if I take my helmet off at the pump and it becomes damaged either from falling or being contaminated by fuel from the floor or pedestal would they cover the damage to the helmet Umm no OK so if I take it off and leave it here will you take responsibility for the helmet? Umm no.
Now some say that anyone who refuses to remove their helmet is being unreasonable but surely the stations are as bad by not giving us somewhere safe to put our lids lets face it they can be very expensive and even if lightly damaged it is recommended they are replaced! and then comes the issue of other items that obscure the face such as baseball caps burkas etc you pull a cap down and keep your head tilted down you can see someone's face can you but they don't need to be removed and these are not part of a "religious" requirement.
Banks I have walked into a bank with my lid up but on (busy and just forgot about taking it off) now as I did not have to fuel up or anything so my hands are free to hold the helmet and the banks are usually free from spilt fuel so have plenty of safe places to put the lid down if needed I usually take it off, I took my payment book and cash to the counter and paid in the cashier said thanks handed me the book back and said can you take the helmet off completely next time please, I said Oops sorry and had a no problems back.
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After 15 years EX-Fazer owner XJR. XJR gone FJR, FJR gone NEW FJR that's gone, now Triumph Tiger Explorer an CB400n Superdream sold BMW 650 Funduro sold Now a R1200GA Adventure Rallye next ? OK so where next turns out to be V-Strom 1050 NEXT?
After 15 years EX-Fazer owner XJR. XJR gone FJR, FJR gone NEW FJR that's gone, now Triumph Tiger Explorer an CB400n Superdream sold BMW 650 Funduro sold Now a R1200GA Adventure Rallye next ? OK so where next turns out to be V-Strom 1050 NEXT?