(18-12-15, 01:53 PM)mr self destruct link Wrote: [quote author=Slaninar link=topic=18941.msg219206#msg219206 date=1450422849][size=1em][size=1em]
Open road - yes. Definitely.
City riding - rarely.
And when it comes to SMIDSY, not sure it helps very much. Swerving before intersections is a lot more effective.
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I agree with you there, if I see a car poking out of a side street I'll move side to side within the lane as the human eye notices movement far more than colour.
As for wearing hi-vis, I never ride without it, for two main reasons. Firstly, the insurance issue as already stated earlier in the thread. Secondly, for my wife's peace of mind.
I personally don't give a fuck about what I look like, so don't care if I'm looked down on by other bikers for wearing it. If I have to wear a pink tutu and bunny ears to stop my wife shitting herself every time I get on the bike, that's what I'll wear. :lol
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[size=1em]My motorcycle has some hi-vis tape put - white on the front, red on the back. I often wear hi-vis in the open road. My "winter" bicycle is taped in hi-vis tape. So nothing against hi-vis.[/size]
However, as far as effectiveness goes, out of town it's a lot more effective. In the city... it seems to help a lot less. IMO, the list is like this:
1. Lights - adding two fog lights at the sides, to make the front look as wide as possible.
![[Image: Motorcycle-10W-LED-Lights-04.jpg]](http://www.ijdmtoy.com/BLOG/Showcase/Honda-LED-Lights-HID-Bulbs/galleries/2012_Vol_06/Motorcycle-10W-LED-Lights-04.jpg)
2. Good lane positioning according to situation (to increase visibility) and weaving at intersections (what is a man when he stops drinking and driving?!

3. Speed and braking - always assume you're still invisible. Always!
4. Hi - vis.
5. Crash pads and helmet, if all else fails.

I wrote a blog article on hi-vis decals limitations for bicycles. People often expect a bit too much of it.
[size=1em]http://www.bike.bikegremlin.com/2015/09/...le-lights/[/size]
Most things done in a hurry need to be done again - patiently.