10-01-15, 07:12 PM
Its an interesting debate and there are in my opinion rights and wrongs on both sides.
Again in my opinion Ched is just another overpaid premadonna footballer who thinks he can do whatever he likes. Responsibility for some of that attitude has to be shouldered by the very sponsors who are now turning their backs on him, after all they've provided a slice of the money he's been paid over the years and the football industry. The FA has over the years allowed/turned a blind eye to the behaviour of players (mentioned above, I would add Terry to that list) by doing so this has sent messages to other players and the 1000's of fans who follow them that it's actually ok to cheat on your pregnant wife or screw your best mates wife etc if you’re a top flight footballer. So is reasonable to think Ched thinks it's ok behave in the same cavalier manner in his case pickup, screw, film his mates with a young drunk woman....... it's not!
On the other hand the woman has to share some responsibility for allowing herself to get into this situation, I was raised to believe that girls who would happily allow you to screw them within an hour or so of meeting them aren't exactly full of morals! That’s doesn't mean she's not entitled to the protection of the law, that’s said we must all take responsibility for our own actions. I don’t think she deserved it, no one does but she defiantly put herself at risk of such behaviour so in my book she's not helped herself and should share some of the responsibility.
Lew600 has a point Ched has in the eye's of the law served his time so it's reasonable to expect him to want to get on with his life and he must be allowed to do that or the system has failed. However Ched has to realise with a job in the public eye and footballers are in the public eye, even role models who because of their status hold positions of privilege, with that comes responsibility. Ched hasn't regardless if he did or did not commit rape acted responsibly and as with most exclusive clubs, orders or organisations if you behave in an irresponsible manner or break their rules or the law you're out! Arguably Ched has done all three certainly the latter (at present pending appeal) and the former, whether he's broke the FA rules is another matter as they are happy to allow the actions of others mentioned to go unpunished.
So I my humble opinion he should go away quietly, learn from his mistakes and move on with his life not playing professional football.
The one statement I totally disagree with
This is a right which is the corner stone of our justice system and must remain, a trial by jury makes us all part of the judicial system i.e. we are judged by fellow citizens and sentenced by judges by applying tariffs given to them.
Again in my opinion Ched is just another overpaid premadonna footballer who thinks he can do whatever he likes. Responsibility for some of that attitude has to be shouldered by the very sponsors who are now turning their backs on him, after all they've provided a slice of the money he's been paid over the years and the football industry. The FA has over the years allowed/turned a blind eye to the behaviour of players (mentioned above, I would add Terry to that list) by doing so this has sent messages to other players and the 1000's of fans who follow them that it's actually ok to cheat on your pregnant wife or screw your best mates wife etc if you’re a top flight footballer. So is reasonable to think Ched thinks it's ok behave in the same cavalier manner in his case pickup, screw, film his mates with a young drunk woman....... it's not!
On the other hand the woman has to share some responsibility for allowing herself to get into this situation, I was raised to believe that girls who would happily allow you to screw them within an hour or so of meeting them aren't exactly full of morals! That’s doesn't mean she's not entitled to the protection of the law, that’s said we must all take responsibility for our own actions. I don’t think she deserved it, no one does but she defiantly put herself at risk of such behaviour so in my book she's not helped herself and should share some of the responsibility.
Lew600 has a point Ched has in the eye's of the law served his time so it's reasonable to expect him to want to get on with his life and he must be allowed to do that or the system has failed. However Ched has to realise with a job in the public eye and footballers are in the public eye, even role models who because of their status hold positions of privilege, with that comes responsibility. Ched hasn't regardless if he did or did not commit rape acted responsibly and as with most exclusive clubs, orders or organisations if you behave in an irresponsible manner or break their rules or the law you're out! Arguably Ched has done all three certainly the latter (at present pending appeal) and the former, whether he's broke the FA rules is another matter as they are happy to allow the actions of others mentioned to go unpunished.
So I my humble opinion he should go away quietly, learn from his mistakes and move on with his life not playing professional football.
The one statement I totally disagree with
(10-01-15, 04:28 PM)lew600fazer link Wrote: Being tried by jury is old hat and should be done away with. For me it should be those that know the law sitting on a bench. They listen to the evidence and decide guilty or not guilty end off.
This is a right which is the corner stone of our justice system and must remain, a trial by jury makes us all part of the judicial system i.e. we are judged by fellow citizens and sentenced by judges by applying tariffs given to them.
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