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Quote:Hmmm....didn't mean to touch a raw nerve but ok I understand that a substantial MINORITY of the people of Scotland feel that they want separation of their part of the UK

No worries, I understand the point you make, but I feel it's based a dodgy agenda pushed by the anti-Scottish English press.  I don't think anybody can seriously find any meaningful evidence that there was a hated filled anti-English YES! campaign.

Yes a substantial minority that cannot be ignored, and a majority that are clearly dissatisfied making a further majority that are open in Scotland to the idea of another Indy referendum if Westminster does not deliver for Scotland.

Quote:but in fairness the Celtic parts of the UK have far more autonomy than the Anglo Saxon bits already -  there is no English Parliament at all so perhaps we should  be looking at a Federal Uk with a shared head of state (unfortunately not elected - yet!) with a federal national assembly or parliament in an indissoluble union.

David Cameron despite Alistair Darlings pleas not to (having done his job Alistair could now be pushed aside and ignored) within hours of the result being called turned  the Scottish Independence referendum into English votes for English laws.  Many of the majority who rejected Independence after that and of course more so following the publication of the Smith Report feel thoroughly conned.  Cameron played our referendum for cheap political points.

Devo max?  Westminster rejected the third option on the ballot paper, then against the rules of The Edinburgh Agreement reintroduced it in the closing stages of the referendum, only to withdraw it in the weeks post the referendum.

Quote:I think we've achieved so much together that to give it all away for a narrower perhaps more 'tribal' view of life serves no one well...

Indeed we have, but since 1979 we have spent decades throwing it away.  Nor is it tribal, YES is an inclusive civil justice movement, the only way we can achieve the society that we desire in Scotland is to leave the UK, unless that is there is revolutionary change in the rest of the UK, so Independence it's not a matter of if but when.  This is political not tribal or racial. 

Quote:And I said I wasn't going to get drawn into debates as they seldom change views!!

Of course debates change minds.  All we need to do is change another few % and it's gonna happen. 

Quote:so this is my last word on the subject as i've no wish to rub anyone up the wrong way or offend even unintentionally

No offence taken.  I think we had a fantastic referendum, the vast majority of people in Scotland engaged in the process, and despite the wild predictions of the English press (boy did they do their best to stirr it up) there was no racism, no trouble and no violence - with the exception of course of the certain loyalist thugs the day after the result. 

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