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Quote:VNA, 45% of the police voted yes, not very good at sums me so 55% voted no, so basically 10% the difference, so you are refusing to accept the result of a democratic election. I am ingnorant of what the Edinburgh agreement is/was you mention that the Westminster Politicians renaged on that.
The very fact that Salmond and his cronies got the voting age lowered to 16, smacks of trying to ensure a yes vote. Did he not think that if it was left at 18 he could have won a yes vote that way.

You seem to be ignorant of Scottish matters in general Lew, but still you wish to lecture us Scots. 
A couple of points Lew.  Edinburgh Agreement - try google.  See my post 65.  Under the Edinburgh Agreement it was a straight YES/No vote.  YES = Independence NO = status quo.  Same as per an election you cannot introduce new policies, never mind change the whole angle of the vote in the closing weeks of the referendum/election.  And most certainly once the postal ballot opens you cannot change your position.  The VOW broke the rules of the Edinburgh Agreement and also had those at the polls voting in a different referendum than those who votes in the postal ballot.  There is also the small matter that Better Together sampled the postal ballot weeks before the poll, hence they knew they were losing and introduced the VOW - I believe the investigation is ongoing. 

16 years olds voting?  Well I say No Taxation Without Representation!  We intend to make this the norm in Scotland. 


Quote:UKIP will do feck all in the next election,

Let hopes so.  Though the bad side of me wishes em luck.  Every vote for UKIP = one vote for Scottish Independence. 


Quote: I know you do not agree that civil unrest would breakout in Scotland if it looked as if the yes campaign or for that matter the no campaign was dead in the water, if both sides keep chipping away at each other and if someone organises mass rallies of protest and counter protest you will have that civil unrest. Not sure what size the police force is in Scotland but if the unrest that I forsee gathers momentum the police will not have the man power or resources to deal with it or contain it.

I am at a total loss as to what you are on about Lew.  The YES! campaign is an inclusive peaceful democratic campaign.

Quote:The RUC, depending on your stance was one of the best equipped and trained police forces in dealing with civil unrest than any in Europe, even they in the end had to ask for outside help.

Whom unfortunately recruited from one side of the community, therefore were seen to represent one side of the community and were rejected by the other half of the community.  In effect, that means that the RUC policed by force, in Scotland we police by consent.

Quote:I know I am doom and gloom, but having lived through what went on in N Ireland. I lost family and frieinds to the violence over there. I would hate to see a similar thing happen to a country that I have a lot of affection for(even though I do take the piss about the place now and then)

I am very sorry to hear that Lew.  But none of the ingredients that could lead to a war in Scotland are present.

Quote:If Scotland does go it's own way can you also lobby that the spelling for Whisky is corrected as in WHISKEY. 
Good luck with your campaign but hopefully the Scottish people will continue to say NO NO NO.

It's Whisky Lew - Whisky.  Whisky and nothing else, I refuse to use that stupid demeaning nonsensical marketing name Scotch.

Recent polls have suggested that a lot of those who voted NO are reconsidering, and they can also see now that the Smith Commission Report gives us nothing like the powers that were suggested under The Vow - we have been tricked. 

The polls are also suggesting 40 plus seats for the SNP at Westminster (it's very early days though) come May.  If Labour collapses (lets see who the new leader is), SNP gets 40 plus seats at Westminster and then does the impossible again at Holyrood, well one can argue that this is not only looking possible but it would perhaps also entitle the Scottish Government to declare Scotland Independent - no referendum required.
It's not really a matter of IF Lew, it's when, and I think it's sooner rather than later.
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