03-12-14, 07:44 PM
Yeah, I've looked at all the stuff on the Shell site, as I have done in the past, and yes we've had these discussions before, and yup they got heated.
A wee thought first. You might want to ask folks who repair engines, or check them for wear, what they usually find when they take one apart, that is an engine that has had it's basic servicing.
What I think they will tell you is that they find nice clean engines usually with minimal wear.
I mean lets face it when did you last think of buying a de-coke kit, popping the cylinder head off and cleaning out all that gunge - that's err umm not there.
Yup the days of the de-coke are long over. So in terms of keeping my engine cleaner than clean, well I dunno what V-power is supposed to do for me.
As for the friction reduction claims, well your bike already has some pretty fancy coatings on it's bores to keep friction down and much more importantly reduce and prevent wear.
We also know our bikes are prone to bore polishing. Some bikes that have been too gently run in and/or run on fully synthetic oil have ended up with polished bores, which prevents the rings from bedding in and they then become oil burners for the rest of their lives.
So in short I think all the talk of friction reduction is probably bull. But if it is true, then it might actually be a good idea to avoid this fuel.
Finally, everything on the Shell site is marketing spin, it's all intentionally vague, there are no hard engineering facts, there are no comparisons or demonstrations of this wonder fuel and what it can achieve in real terms.
Anyway my trusty old VW Bora which I've been driving for the last 9 years runs on 95RON Premium Unleaded. I'm dreaming of maybe replacing it with a Skoda VRS petrol estate. As the Skoda is turbo charged and set up for 98RON, well it will get 98RON cos it needs it, and whilst it will run on 95RON (cos it's got 'knock' detection) it won't run as well on it.
So I'll run my car and my bike on 95RON as they are both set up for 92RON. There is no benefit from using a higher octane, and the only thing you can achieve, as I have explained, is a very slightly lowered power output.
Simon is correct, there are no facts and no demonstration of it's superior performance.
A wee thought first. You might want to ask folks who repair engines, or check them for wear, what they usually find when they take one apart, that is an engine that has had it's basic servicing.
What I think they will tell you is that they find nice clean engines usually with minimal wear.
I mean lets face it when did you last think of buying a de-coke kit, popping the cylinder head off and cleaning out all that gunge - that's err umm not there.
Yup the days of the de-coke are long over. So in terms of keeping my engine cleaner than clean, well I dunno what V-power is supposed to do for me.
As for the friction reduction claims, well your bike already has some pretty fancy coatings on it's bores to keep friction down and much more importantly reduce and prevent wear.
We also know our bikes are prone to bore polishing. Some bikes that have been too gently run in and/or run on fully synthetic oil have ended up with polished bores, which prevents the rings from bedding in and they then become oil burners for the rest of their lives.
So in short I think all the talk of friction reduction is probably bull. But if it is true, then it might actually be a good idea to avoid this fuel.
Finally, everything on the Shell site is marketing spin, it's all intentionally vague, there are no hard engineering facts, there are no comparisons or demonstrations of this wonder fuel and what it can achieve in real terms.
Anyway my trusty old VW Bora which I've been driving for the last 9 years runs on 95RON Premium Unleaded. I'm dreaming of maybe replacing it with a Skoda VRS petrol estate. As the Skoda is turbo charged and set up for 98RON, well it will get 98RON cos it needs it, and whilst it will run on 95RON (cos it's got 'knock' detection) it won't run as well on it.
So I'll run my car and my bike on 95RON as they are both set up for 92RON. There is no benefit from using a higher octane, and the only thing you can achieve, as I have explained, is a very slightly lowered power output.
Simon is correct, there are no facts and no demonstration of it's superior performance.