Thought I'd try V power.

[nick crisp]

Thing is with the V Power, I don't think it's just the higher octane that's responsible for improvements. Shell have banged on about how they've put a lot of R&D into this fuel, working with Ferrari among others to achieve what they have, and that doesn't sound to me like just banging up the octane level. I have not found similar improvements with higher octane fuel from other producers.

VNA, whilst much of what you say seems to make sense, I think you are wrong about the placebo effect with this particular fuel. We all dislike certain things about the politics behind fossil fuel production, and maybe the fuel companies do not operate in an entirely ethical manner, but this doesn't mean that they don't know a bit about how to produce a decent fuel, or indeed, how to make advances in the field. I remain convinced that V Power gives me the improvements I claim. And for me it's not about producing more power. I honestly couldn't say if this is the case. But it improves pick up, and makes for smoother running lower down the rev range. That is why I like it. And if the higher octane causes a loss of power for the timing reasons you suggest, well the bike is no slouch, and that's a fact! Also, I've been using it in Fazers long enough now to know that there are no long term ill effects. Good enough for me