Ok...catch up time......I wish yamfazfan :lol........noggy, your input on weight is very good, infact iam surprised how close you and a few others are getting.....no prizes for micks guess of 65 kgs :rollin :rollin :rollin.......as you can guess I weighed it today but not going to tell as I think we can get a bit more mileage out of this thread so keep the guesses coming 
.....now where did I put that key .......
.....now where did I put that key .......
One, is never going to be enough.....