Winter glove recommendations? (Don't mention bar muffs)

[stevierst]

I'm with punkstig in this one in all trueness. I've been a 365 biker for over a decade now, (that's when I gave up on cars), and muffs/heated grips have been the only thing that have allowed my hands to survive longer than an hour.

My super-duper H-G gloves are ok for an hour, but that's it. Summer gloves with maybe a liner (just use thin cotton) heavily modified muffs to stop wind collapse, and heated grips are what used to see me through my 240 mile commute.

Not tried heated gloves as I really don't need them anymore, but heard a lot of good things about them. Handguards are a bit of a waste of time for winter riding, they don't really do bugger-all.