It IS ILLEGAL to ride with the flip up unless it gets its raiting with said flip up..,,bit no one really enforces it unless they r foccin jobsworth coppers. It's just not a priority for city police cos everybody does it and so therefore petty...But I did get stopped once in Gloucester for it.... I said to the copper " everybody does it in London even the coppers" his answer " we aint in London now are we sir" but i always have it down in the greenlanes on account of the bugs.... Had a few nasty whacks from some bee's b4....foccin hurts
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