Advance stop lines (asl's/ bike boxes) A WARNING!

[Punkstig]

Rule 178:

[color=rgb(11, 12, 12)]Motorists, including motorcyclists, [/color][color=rgb(11, 12, 12)]MUST[/color][color=rgb(11, 12, 12)] stop at the first white line reached if the lights are amber or red and should avoid blocking the way or encroaching on the marked area at other times[/color]

Note the use of the word "reached". You do not have to stop at the first stop line, but the first stop line you reach when the lights change. So, depending on speed and when they change you could legally stop at the second line.

Yes, legally you could and luckily if they tried to charge you you already know there is CCTV evidence to prove you we're in the right-


178Advanced stop lines. Some signal-controlled junctions have advanced stop lines to allow cycles to be positioned ahead of other traffic. Motorists, including motorcyclists, MUST stop at the first white line reached if the lights are amber or red and should avoid blocking the way or encroaching on the marked area at other times, e.g. if the junction ahead is blocked. If your vehicle has proceeded over the first white line at the time that the signal goes red, you MUST stop at the second white line, even if your vehicle is in the marked area. Allow cyclists time and space to move off when the green signal shows.
Laws RTA 1988 sect 36 & TSRGD regs 10, 36(1) & 43(2)