(08-06-13, 09:21 AM)unfazed link Wrote: So your telling me that with the bike on the centre stand a newbie cannot stand on the left side of the bike, grab the left handlebar and rear grab rail and pull it over slightly towards himself/herself balanced on the left side of the centre stand. :eek :eek :eek
I have seen many newbies do it without thinking when putting their bikes on the centre stand for fear it will fall over to the right. The reason I know this. is because I asked a few when I saw them doing it as a ride out.
When my kids were 12 they could do it without any assistance from me.
Why on this earth would you want to do that?
Firstly it's just plain dangerous and inviting an accident, and secondly you can't see properly what is going on with the oil without contorting your body even further.
And one slight pull too much to the left and you've got a whole bike on your legs if the stand pops up, not to mention the chance of the centre stand possibly crumbling on you, if it's rusty or weakened, due to extra weight load at an unusual angle, as has been mentioned in another recent post..
If that's the way you want to do things then that's your choice, but i certainly wouldn't teach a learner to do that at all.
I'd say Punkstig's advice is probably an ideal way to start off if you've not done it before, just because of easier access to the sump bolt.
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