The brotherhood is dead, long live the brotherhood!

[hightower]

I know what you mean, some days everyone will nod back, others not single returned nod. I've completely given up with mopeds - I have NEVER had one return a nod. Learners can be as bad, but I give the benefit of the doubt as some of them do

The other thing, someone with L plates on is obviously not going to be as competent as a trained rider, so perhaps they are spending too much time focusing on what could potentially hit them rather than making friends. Don't get me wrong, I always returned a nod when I had L plates on, but I would let the 'big biker' initiate it always.

Now I'm a fully fledged member of the 'big bikers society' I nod at anyone and everyone, even the t-shirt wearing suicide mopeds.