11-03-13, 10:01 AM
Simon
Couple of things..first , advanced training is usually tailored to the rider, ie your level of experience. While I wouldnt say get some advanced training immediately after your bike test , peoples experience, speed of learning and enthusiasm does vary. Hence one immediate test passer could be a candidate for immediate further training.
Two, a good trainer will pick out those areas you most need to work on, usually found after an observed ride. I was an observer for several years and have even coached guys who are racing, on their road skills.They would no doubt be quicker on track than me , but in this case needed help on the road.In point of fact it was the Isle of Man !..lol
You do seem preoccupied with going fast on the road.Which is a bit worrying as its not the most important facet of your riding just now.I like to think I am a reasonably quick road rider , but often I get overtaken on the road..just cos they are riding fast doesnt mean they are good riders.I have been on rideouts with some absolute nutters...and I will just let them go. My riding is my own domain, if I dont feel comfortable I wont pursue.There is also the issue of getting done for speeding . TBH the more experienced rider will know when its prudent to have a bit of a blast , and when to just ride at more reailistic speed.I have no inbuilt speed camera detector, but on a bike I have never been actually prosecuted for speeding...which when I look back , is as maybe as much luck as judgement !...you can have fun on a bike without speeding everywhere. But many rider groups end up going faster and faster ... As the guy in the vid says, they probably aint the best to ride with., as such it may be more prudent to ride out with people at or just above your level of experience.I do know of a lad , riding with 2 other riders, felt was getting left behind, overcooked a bend, crashed , and lost a leg. Its no place to be , and all for just trying to keep up with so called " mates"....
I tend to pick my roads to have fun on, roads which are inherantly safer or where the level of hazard is observable, and possible to control at speed.Riding an unknown road at speed in excess of your comfort zone is very difficult , and probably not enjoyable.It only takes a seconds loss of concentration at speed to have a spill too.
If you do a trackday for instance , the level of concentration is extremely high, and its surprising just how tiring even a 20 min session can be at that intensity, and thats on a course where you know exactly what is coming up ! The roads are infinitely more dangerous.Most people enjoy riding at much lower levels of concentration, so they can absorb all which is going on.
I suppose I could summarize it all by saying look at your level of expectation from your ability at the moment.
Couple of things..first , advanced training is usually tailored to the rider, ie your level of experience. While I wouldnt say get some advanced training immediately after your bike test , peoples experience, speed of learning and enthusiasm does vary. Hence one immediate test passer could be a candidate for immediate further training.
Two, a good trainer will pick out those areas you most need to work on, usually found after an observed ride. I was an observer for several years and have even coached guys who are racing, on their road skills.They would no doubt be quicker on track than me , but in this case needed help on the road.In point of fact it was the Isle of Man !..lol
You do seem preoccupied with going fast on the road.Which is a bit worrying as its not the most important facet of your riding just now.I like to think I am a reasonably quick road rider , but often I get overtaken on the road..just cos they are riding fast doesnt mean they are good riders.I have been on rideouts with some absolute nutters...and I will just let them go. My riding is my own domain, if I dont feel comfortable I wont pursue.There is also the issue of getting done for speeding . TBH the more experienced rider will know when its prudent to have a bit of a blast , and when to just ride at more reailistic speed.I have no inbuilt speed camera detector, but on a bike I have never been actually prosecuted for speeding...which when I look back , is as maybe as much luck as judgement !...you can have fun on a bike without speeding everywhere. But many rider groups end up going faster and faster ... As the guy in the vid says, they probably aint the best to ride with., as such it may be more prudent to ride out with people at or just above your level of experience.I do know of a lad , riding with 2 other riders, felt was getting left behind, overcooked a bend, crashed , and lost a leg. Its no place to be , and all for just trying to keep up with so called " mates"....
I tend to pick my roads to have fun on, roads which are inherantly safer or where the level of hazard is observable, and possible to control at speed.Riding an unknown road at speed in excess of your comfort zone is very difficult , and probably not enjoyable.It only takes a seconds loss of concentration at speed to have a spill too.
If you do a trackday for instance , the level of concentration is extremely high, and its surprising just how tiring even a 20 min session can be at that intensity, and thats on a course where you know exactly what is coming up ! The roads are infinitely more dangerous.Most people enjoy riding at much lower levels of concentration, so they can absorb all which is going on.
I suppose I could summarize it all by saying look at your level of expectation from your ability at the moment.