18-01-13, 02:36 PM
I ran a speed triple for 3 yrs alongside my full monty fazer 1000, so feel qualified to comment...rode 13k miles on the speedy and about 20 k on the fazer in that 3 yrs.
!. The speedy is an " experience" bike, full stop. Its appeal is in the way it makes the rider feel, rather than a side by side power/torque etc comparison.The speedy is a bit of a loveable wild animal, the fazer feels a bit anodyne by comparison.
2. On the road up to 120 the speedy can be as fast or faster than the fazer simply down to torque delivery . Theres no waiting , its all off the throttle. But no doubt on a drag strip, the fazer would be first past the post.Lots of revs, etc etc. Over 120 the fazer is well into its stride and in full monty guise would give the vfr1200 a run for its money.On the road at least I have never been outpaced by any other bike if I am on the case, save exotica/ hyper powersportsbikes ridden hard.Its that competitive.The combo of 140 at the rear wheel, great low down torque and easy handling makes for a potent fast road bike.
3. The noise of that triumph engine is pure sex..it moans like a six over 6k rpm, utterly addictive. If you didnt like the way it snarls and surges, you aint human !..it is IMO the way a proper motorbike should feel, as punchy as a v twin, much more character than a four...perfect road engine for " normal" riding ....
4. As an allrounder the speedy will never win, but its surprisingly civilised, with a great seat , good mpg , its comfy for quite long rides. Its no good for touring though due to the lack of mudguarding / luggage/ ergos.
I regret selling mine, I do miss it like mad...so much so I probably will get another. Has to be the older model( not the latest) in black...mean moody and brutal !! Bring it on !
As for the fazer , its a very fast capable all round bike.Whops up to 150 real quick, incredible roll on in top past 4k rpm. Utterly stable handling . Great for fast touring . So practical. But ultimately still feels a tad soulless.And now is just starting to feel ....old....but its still a lovely bike to ride, will do anything from touring to trackdays. Just now I find it a bit overpowering for touring as at touring speeds, the fazer engine is almost switched off ! Great for sweepers and autobahns, but an exercise in restraint elsewhere.That engine just wants to go man...not pootle around !
GIVE THIS BIKE THE CROSSPLANE ENGINE ! ...give it feel, give it that v4 like sound...it would be unbeatable...IMO... cant believe yam aint done it ...
!. The speedy is an " experience" bike, full stop. Its appeal is in the way it makes the rider feel, rather than a side by side power/torque etc comparison.The speedy is a bit of a loveable wild animal, the fazer feels a bit anodyne by comparison.
2. On the road up to 120 the speedy can be as fast or faster than the fazer simply down to torque delivery . Theres no waiting , its all off the throttle. But no doubt on a drag strip, the fazer would be first past the post.Lots of revs, etc etc. Over 120 the fazer is well into its stride and in full monty guise would give the vfr1200 a run for its money.On the road at least I have never been outpaced by any other bike if I am on the case, save exotica/ hyper powersportsbikes ridden hard.Its that competitive.The combo of 140 at the rear wheel, great low down torque and easy handling makes for a potent fast road bike.
3. The noise of that triumph engine is pure sex..it moans like a six over 6k rpm, utterly addictive. If you didnt like the way it snarls and surges, you aint human !..it is IMO the way a proper motorbike should feel, as punchy as a v twin, much more character than a four...perfect road engine for " normal" riding ....
4. As an allrounder the speedy will never win, but its surprisingly civilised, with a great seat , good mpg , its comfy for quite long rides. Its no good for touring though due to the lack of mudguarding / luggage/ ergos.
I regret selling mine, I do miss it like mad...so much so I probably will get another. Has to be the older model( not the latest) in black...mean moody and brutal !! Bring it on !
As for the fazer , its a very fast capable all round bike.Whops up to 150 real quick, incredible roll on in top past 4k rpm. Utterly stable handling . Great for fast touring . So practical. But ultimately still feels a tad soulless.And now is just starting to feel ....old....but its still a lovely bike to ride, will do anything from touring to trackdays. Just now I find it a bit overpowering for touring as at touring speeds, the fazer engine is almost switched off ! Great for sweepers and autobahns, but an exercise in restraint elsewhere.That engine just wants to go man...not pootle around !
GIVE THIS BIKE THE CROSSPLANE ENGINE ! ...give it feel, give it that v4 like sound...it would be unbeatable...IMO... cant believe yam aint done it ...