Jim'll fiddle it

[Streetbudgie]

I  mean when these people became adults. When any claim could have been reported to the police and it could have been properly investigated, as opposed to now , which is all just impossible to either prove or do anything with the " facts".
ref his family...well given the hysteria , would you want to be associated with the grave  in any way ...I feel they destroyed the headstone because it was impossible to use anymore. Its not an acknowledgement of his guilt.

I think we should all be concentrating with stuff we can do something about today , I think the whole issue is self defeating as just what more can be said and done??

I still find it hard to reconcile it all with a man who was a big figure in my childhood...and his charitable work was unprecedented . You cant compare it with local fundraising , which while obviously worthwhile and creditable, is nothing on the scale of what he raised.You know if it is true, its possible the biggest single shock in my life after deaths in my family...thats how I feel about it....why I feel the proof has to be certain...and can that be possible to achieve...?

That's a very honest post and I understand that this is affecting you on a personal level. However he was not a relative nor did you know him personally (I presume) and you must have been let down by people closer to you in the past, so why struggle to believe this when the evidence is gathering daily?

The reason people came foward now is simple - fear, he scared them as a child and scared them until they day he died and they knew he could hurt them no more.

I have to disagree about not being able to compare local fund raising with his efforts, most local fund raising is carried out by people who have to work for a living - JS did a radio show for a few hours a day and recorded one or two programmes a week.

He had a lot of spare time and people to drive him about to charity events and I think a lot of it was just turn up, show his face (which was now synonymous with charity fund raising), say something daft but supportive, wave a cigar about and bugger off.

A non famous employed person doing charity work has to commit a much higher ratio of their spare time to charity.

Also if you believe what is being written it appears he had his own agenda for going all over raising this money, at this stage it doesn't seem it was the heartfelt gesture we all thought it to be.

What is shocking me about the whole thing is the reaction by his family (this makes me think they knew something was wrong) and the BBC leeches like Rantzen saying but not saying they knew it was going on but could do nothing about it - bullshit, if I knew the King of England was a fiddler I would be shouting about it until someone heard me (as an adult, not a frightened child).