(05-10-12, 03:58 PM)Chillum link Wrote: For fucks sake Breadlord, if you're going to have a debate with someone at least keep it about the points raised rather than using smokescreen.
Rusty, keep it coming. If necessary I'll start debating you to keep it going, even though I am aware of a lot of this stuff already.
Question though: Do you have any suggestions on how to overcome the impression that we are ants trying to fight a gorilla.
The lad's allright Chillum. My fault for winding him up really, I have wry sense of humour that doesn't translate in text. In answer to your question No. That's just what we are. Effing plebs! :lol
The answer is greater transparency and openness in government, but we don't have that because of so called 'security issues'. The security issues they themselves create that is. Like the bogey man. Russians, now terrorists, then perhaps the Chinese, then it'll probably be the extraterrestrial threat. So long as your kept in fear of something external you will look to the government to do something about it, and if that means losing a little liberty to feel safe along the way then that's what people will accept. And that's what the government will provide.
The reason why the USSR failed and China succeeds is an open economic market. A totalitarian government based on commerce. There are no ‘Human Rights’ just human manipulation. It's a very successful business model and this hasn't gone unnoticed in the west. They know they can't fight China, they can't out produce or out manufacture China, but they can emulate it. By combining nations into larger entities like the EU, and eventually further combining under one world banking system Earth becomes a social economic collective.