01-10-12, 12:49 PM
(01-10-12, 12:36 PM)Tiberius Onklevaart link Wrote: This is about to become a john Harris love in. I'll just get lizard people mentioned before anyone else gets a chance
Nowt to do with John Harris or anyone else TB, it's about the right to stand up for yourself. Facts are facts, law is law. If law is based on principle that principle cannot waver can it? Therefore the law can work for you, or against you, it's just a question of harnessing it in your favour. Introducing talk of lizards or other silliness doesn't detract from the principle.
(01-10-12, 12:24 PM)Lawrence link Wrote: It's not being 'extracted under duress'... there's nothing forcing you to sign it at all. If you get a speeding ticket and object to signing it then just take it to court. If you're innocent then there won't be any evidence surely? If you're guilty then the £60/3 points is a quick way of dealing with it without the time/expense of taking it all through court.
Which is why I believe that no one should sign anything - let them bring it to court. Let me ask you who benefits from the quick 'confession'? Certainly not the individual being processed.
In recent times there have been cases of pensioners being fined for having their dustbin lids open 1 inch too high, another pensioner who dropped a ten pound note while exiting a newsagents was fined for littering, hearses with coffins have been booked for transgressing yellow lines, and all other forms of lunacy.
Each of those fines was imposed without any compunction to be sensible on the part of the person issuing them, and often as not were upheld upon appeal by local authority. My point is that when told to 'sign here' by a Policeman or any other person how many individuals actually know they are perfectly within their rights to refuse to do so? The law exists not to persecute but to protect, and far too many citizens are unaware of their own rights to defend themselves against such tin pot tyranny by using that same law in defence.