19-08-12, 09:41 PM
(19-08-12, 06:45 PM)VNA link Wrote:
But you wanted an English one? Good to see you have finally accepted that that is simply not possible.
Obfuscation on your part. I stated that I wanted an in/out referendum plain and simple, along it appears, with a frighteningly large percentage of the population if the wriggling of the political classes is anything to go by. So you now admit that a referendum is possible having said it wasn't?
(19-08-12, 06:45 PM)VNA link Wrote:
No they are not. Wrong again. Powers that are devolved cannot be overruled by Westminster. Blah blah... Westminster quickly did a U-turn.
So you are saying that to overrule the devolved parliament would be unconstitutional is that it?
(19-08-12, 06:45 PM)VNA link Wrote: So pretty minor stuff. Perhaps just you've been reading the Daily Mail or something.
Ah! We're back with the attempted stereotyping are we. No I don't read the daily mail actually not that it matters. Yes pretty minor stuff, like incitement to murder, terrorism, overcrowded Hospitals and schools, crippling fuel bills, attacks on christianity - you know the sort of thing, don't know what all the fuss is about really.
(19-08-12, 06:45 PM)VNA link Wrote: I'm happy to stick a very large bet on the UK staying in the EU forever and a day
Will you be betting that in Greek Euro's, Italian Portugese or Spanish?
(19-08-12, 06:45 PM)VNA link Wrote: Under the dispersal programme Scotland has taken quite a large slice of the UK's Asylum Seekers over the last 10 years or so. I've been involved with campaigning on refugee rights and around integration projects for quite some time.
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Wrong again.

(19-08-12, 06:45 PM)VNA link Wrote: But anyway you didn't answer my question. Why am I bothering?
Because you can't help yourself, it comes across in the tone of your posts.
(19-08-12, 06:45 PM)VNA link Wrote: The day civil disobedience and protest is not tolerated, well it's generally a good sign that your democracy is dead.
http://www.ukcolumn.org/article/roger-hayes-arrested-tried-secret-court-imprisoned
(19-08-12, 06:45 PM)VNA link Wrote: Some in the EU may dream of a federal Europe, but the reality was it could never be, we were always far too diverse for that, and now that dream is in absolute tatters. It may be time to review and reform the EU, but dismantle it or pull out - never. And the EU is most certainly not the cause of our current woes, it's a factor, but not the cause and getting out will only make the UK's current woes considerably worse, and then some.
I'm glad you are finally admitting what I've been saying all along. Now the only thing that remains is to let the people decide if they wish to be in or out rather than persons like yourself tell them it's in for their own good. It's called democracy, you never know it might even catch on.

It's been fun, enjoy the Commonwealth games, hosted by Scotland huh? Ahh! So that's why no-one appears to care.