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Olympic Conclusions
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(18-08-12, 10:32 PM)VNA link Wrote:
Quote:In reality it is. Masses are brainwashed. All the consumerism hype. Little solidarity, more and more estranged.

Yup exactly what I'm trying to say.  We get the government and society we deserve. 

Quote:Facebook, mobile phones with cameras and microphones

And the foc-u web site?

Except these things, as we have seen can also start revolutions against totalitarian dictators (whom have more often than not been supported by our democracy loving western governments)

It's a bit like the young lads at work who'll say to me "What's the union ever done for us?"  I'll reply "what have you done for the union?"

I'll point out that the safe work environment, a decent rate of pay, welfare facilities, pensions etc etc that we enjoy (some of us, for now), are all becuase their forefathers organised and fought for their rights.

Today, apparently, all we can do is sit back and watch it slip away, maybe cast our vote once every four or five years.  Or fight amongst ourselves over immigration and benefits cheats, maybe throwing what few pennies we have left on stupid lottery tickets as if it's the only way out of this pile of shite.


I'll finish by saying I entirely agree with all of the above post VNR (shock-Horror)  :lol


Ultimately I think we both want social justice but approach it from different angles. In this country the people are governed by consent, and as previously mention the alternative we have in law (being English) is to withdraw that consent. It's perfectly lawful under common law. Slaninar look up 'Lawful rebellion'.


If successive governments continue to insist on bleeding the people white and over regulating every area of life, then I believe that unrest and civil disobedience will follow. The EU is flawed by fiscal irresponsibility and the tendency to micro manage our lives which is why I lean toward greater independence and the re asserting of national sovereignty. 


Only achievable if the nation tears itself away from the X factor for a while to see what's actually being done to the.
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