18-08-12, 07:19 PM
Quote:The in out EU referendum can take place without further ado.As I've pointed out, it is not going to happen.
Oh, English law is not applicable in Scotland. And maybe just maybe you have grasped that England can't hold an in/out EU referendum?
Quote:As I mentioned earlier I genuinely do hope Scotland gains independence, although anyone with an abacus might then see problems on the horizon. I predict that Scottish youth will soon after be obliged to pay for their own education, and the small population of Scotland will be expected to pay more taxes to support it's own health and welfare costs. The next step will be a cap in hand to the EU, followed after rebuttal, by inviting Chinese investment or perhaps the offer of a naval base for big cash.
Whatever.
Firstly it's not about some mad rose tinted nationalism, it's about politics. Scotland once again has a UK government it did not vote for. We had 17 years years of Tory rule not that long ago that we did not vote for, and here we are again.
Economically, currently Scotland raises more in taxes for the exchequer than it receives back as the budget granted to it by the UK. You won't find any independent economic experts that will state that Scottish independence is not viable.
Quote:There is no substance in "There are no races just the human race" type statements. It's akin to saying there are no political boundaries, only geographical ones - yet there they are and so often under dispute. I was lucky enough to be born under English common law which bestows certain inalienable rights in perpetuity. One such right is that I, and only I, can relinquish them. A person cannot give them away on my behalf i.e. give away what is not his to give. That isn't a sound bite it is fact under English common law. Look it up, it's in the Magna Carta.
I still don't know what you are on about. What is it that you think 'they' are trying to take away from you, though you claim, whatever it is, they can't take it away anyway. How very interesting!
Quote:You state that 'Most immigrants come from the EU.' Please state your sources for this information. I know it to be untrue. It is a deliberately misleading ploy to deflect the truth of the scale of None EU immigrants. I put it to you that the majority of immigrants are Asian and somali African.
OK, I'm behind the times. Last year figures show Indians as the biggest number coming to the UK, they accounted for 12% of all immigrants. The surge from the EU in recent years has been reversed with more leaving than coming in.
Quote:Your reply seems to accept that it is in evidence and has become a problem, but merely goes on to blame the architects of our misery.
Well yeah. It wasn't difficult to see it coming. Brown's miracle economy was no miracle, it was built on rising asset prices and credit. Meanwhile you can be sure that our rich press barons will keep focusing on immigration and benefits scroungers etc etc. Anything to keep people from thinking about how we are really getting screwed.
Commonwealth games anyone?