08-12-11, 01:57 PM
Its intresting about your thoughts on sprints and tigers. I owned 2 sprints, both had triumph aftermarket cans, with remaps, and did pull quite hard from low revs, top speed about 165 to 168 on speedo.The 1050 engine is all about torque, and the sprint felt right on fast A roads and sweepers.... I have ridden tigers and they definitely are in a lower state of tune to the sprint.Maybe as much as 10 -15 less bhp. They do feel much less urgent .
My speed triple is completely different. Lower gearing , about 5 to 10 bhp more than the sprint , ,courtesy of the open arrows and a remap,40 kgs less weight ....its so in yer face, makes the full monty fazer seem weak till its pulling 6000rpm.A rear tyre lasts 2000 miles if I am lucky. You could very easily get yerself into trouble by riding one cackhandedly.0 to 100 is just so damned quick and easy to do, not even hard revving! Its sheer throttle response in any gear , and the roar of its engine is a real experience....hard not to grin and lark around like a complete nutter when you ride it...rather diffrent to a sprint , and overwhelming compared to a tiger.Not everyones cup of tea, but you can ride it reasonably civilly , and is comfy enuff for long days out. Though its not a bike I would tour on.
The sprint is better in that role, the softer power delivery better suited to roll on roll off situations, and its the comfiest bike I have ridden. TBH if you rode at 9/10ths,didnt push to the max, dont know if you would ever need any more.Its power delivery was torquey, but very controllable. The sprints weakness was a bit of topheavyness in slow tight corners, but IMO thats all.I also disliked the underseat exhaust because of practicality.
Where the fazer scores for me is its chuckability , especially in tight corners.The weight distribution is just right.... In a way its a bit GS like...on paper it shouldnt be so good. I put it down to the steering geometry which while not as sharp as some bikes,with the wide bars just give so much confidence in hurling the bike about and cranking into corners. I think back to sept this year at Cadwell Park...feck the bike is still competitive against sportsbikes. Wont beat them, but feck they marvelled at its handling and speed out of corners. And with a top speed of 150+ is very hard to drag on the straights. Only modern R1, blades, 1198 dukes etc have the power advantage to do so.IMO ..what you can do with a modded fazer is down to the rider more than the bike...ground clearance issue aside.Yet at the same time, its so capable of doing the big tour, strapping on huge amounts of luggage, has a big tank range, good mpg etc....its why it beats the sprint IMO.Not really so much the power , more the all rounder stuff.
And all for little money eh ???
My speed triple is completely different. Lower gearing , about 5 to 10 bhp more than the sprint , ,courtesy of the open arrows and a remap,40 kgs less weight ....its so in yer face, makes the full monty fazer seem weak till its pulling 6000rpm.A rear tyre lasts 2000 miles if I am lucky. You could very easily get yerself into trouble by riding one cackhandedly.0 to 100 is just so damned quick and easy to do, not even hard revving! Its sheer throttle response in any gear , and the roar of its engine is a real experience....hard not to grin and lark around like a complete nutter when you ride it...rather diffrent to a sprint , and overwhelming compared to a tiger.Not everyones cup of tea, but you can ride it reasonably civilly , and is comfy enuff for long days out. Though its not a bike I would tour on.
The sprint is better in that role, the softer power delivery better suited to roll on roll off situations, and its the comfiest bike I have ridden. TBH if you rode at 9/10ths,didnt push to the max, dont know if you would ever need any more.Its power delivery was torquey, but very controllable. The sprints weakness was a bit of topheavyness in slow tight corners, but IMO thats all.I also disliked the underseat exhaust because of practicality.
Where the fazer scores for me is its chuckability , especially in tight corners.The weight distribution is just right.... In a way its a bit GS like...on paper it shouldnt be so good. I put it down to the steering geometry which while not as sharp as some bikes,with the wide bars just give so much confidence in hurling the bike about and cranking into corners. I think back to sept this year at Cadwell Park...feck the bike is still competitive against sportsbikes. Wont beat them, but feck they marvelled at its handling and speed out of corners. And with a top speed of 150+ is very hard to drag on the straights. Only modern R1, blades, 1198 dukes etc have the power advantage to do so.IMO ..what you can do with a modded fazer is down to the rider more than the bike...ground clearance issue aside.Yet at the same time, its so capable of doing the big tour, strapping on huge amounts of luggage, has a big tank range, good mpg etc....its why it beats the sprint IMO.Not really so much the power , more the all rounder stuff.
And all for little money eh ???